Antrax Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 This is from anonymous app play, so no hand record unfortunately.[hv=pc=n&s=saqhakq652dakqck7&n=sj984hj43d54cat64&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p2cp2dp2h(*)p3hp3sp4np5dp5sp6cp6h(**)p]266|200[/hv]I've highlighted the two odd bids. First of all, it seems there is no difference in the description between 2♥ and 3♥ by opener - same strength, some suit quality, same length. I think jumping here should set trump and request cue-bids. Moreover, if I bid 3♥ here, GIB bids 3♠ which shows a four-card suit, hiding its heart support.So you bid 2♥ and GIB supports and shows some interest. Then, after RKC confirming all keys, it asks for Q (committing to 6-level) and then when receiving the answer opener has the Q and a fitting K, signs off. What would it take to get it to bid 7? Why ask for Q if you're never going past 6 and you can't stop at 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 This is from anonymous app play, so no hand record unfortunately.[hv=pc=n&s=saqhakq652dakqck7&n=sj984hj43d54cat64&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p2cp2dp2h(*)p3hp3sp4np5dp5sp6cp6h(**)p]266|200[/hv]I've highlighted the two odd bids. First of all, it seems there is no difference in the description between 2♥ and 3♥ by opener - same strength, some suit quality, same length. I think jumping here should set trump and request cue-bids. Moreover, if I bid 3♥ here, GIB bids 3♠ which shows a four-card suit, hiding its heart support.So you bid 2♥ and GIB supports and shows some interest. Then, after RKC confirming all keys, it asks for Q (committing to 6-level) and then when receiving the answer opener has the Q and a fitting K, signs off. What would it take to get it to bid 7? Why ask for Q if you're never going past 6 and you can't stop at 5?Best for the strong hand to ask the questions not the weak hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You ask for the queen because your partner is unlimited and might be able to bid 7 by himself if he knows you have all the keycards. This is bridge 101. You also should never ask for keycards and when you have them all just bid 6 opposite an unlimited partner, you should always bid 5N to tell him you have them all in case he can bid 7 even if you have no intention of doing so. Look at it this way, 5S does not "ask for the queen" it says "we have all the keycards but I don't have the queen of trumps." Similarly, 5N king ask does not "ask for kings" it says "we have all the keycards and the queen of trumps." This is an important distinction opposite an unlimited hand. Also, even if you could jump to 3H to begin with you should not, you are not ready to set trumps with AKQxxx. Partner might have 7 diamondsand a heart void or something, you could still belong in any suit but especially diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Huh. Thanks Justin. You'd be surprised how difficult it is to learn a consistent "Bridge 101". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 North has to confirm all keys if he bids RKC but it's pretty ludicrous for North to take over captaincy on this hand, it has no way to count tricks accurately GIB needs to learn to cue bid 4♣ like a normal person whether this auction or if South had rebid 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 so on this hand say you bid 5NT showing all keycardshow to do you invite 7 if partner has the K♠partner will bid 6♥ showing no King below level of ♥would bidding 6NT or 6♠ be the ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 so on this hand say you bid 5NT showing all keycardshow to do you invite 7 if partner has the K♠partner will bid 6♥ showing no King below level of ♥would bidding 6NT or 6♠ be the ask? This problem is why you should play 5S asking for kings, the extra step allows, for example, 5N with the SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 This problem is why you should play 5S asking for kings, the extra step allows, for example, 5N with the SK.thanks was just curious as to how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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