waubrey Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Cool list, not that I( agree with all of it LOL. I don't see how the British shows can be included. http://www.latare.com/10-Greatest-TV-SciFi.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't see how Dr Who can be rated so lowly amongst some of the dross rated in the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't see how Dr Who can be rated so lowly amongst some of the dross rated in the top 10. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't see how Dr Who can be rated so lowly amongst some of the dross rated in the top 10. And where is Red Dwarf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 And where is Red Dwarf? top ten you understand you are the only one who knows what that is......not ten million Over 60 years that is the best? fair enough list your top ten over last 60-etc years hint no one knows red dwarf......less than 10% of world..you may be only vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 The ordering of the list is definitely questionable and Alien Nation and Invasion are questionable entries (especially Alien Nation). I think this list is better (Babylon5, XFiles, Farscape are worthy additions). And it depends on do you count fantasy as part of science fiction? (Game of Thrones? Buffy? Dresden Files? etc.). I have many others that I'd consider at least worthy of considering (and certainly more worthy than Alien Nation) including Dark Angel, Andromeda, Quantum Leap, Sliders, V, Doll House, etc. And then comedies like Futurama, 3rd Rock from the Sun are a whole other kettle of fish (and include others like ALF, Red Dwarf, Lexx, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 No Babylon 5? Must be a joke. And Doctor Who is borderline comedy IMO. Not quite, but close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 And where is Red Dwarf?As we've noticed every time one of these lists is posted, the guy behind this site is obviously American. Torchwood and Dr Who have been shown prominently in the US, Red Dwarf not so much -- I'll bet he's never seen it. At least he didn't list Lost in Space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Maybe this particular list doesn't have Red Dwarf because the author hasn't seen it. But really, it would never belong on a sci-fi top ten list, or bottom ten list, or any list, because it isn't sci-fi. It's comedy. Maybe it could be on a comedy top ten list. Or maybe, if you really like it, on an all-genre list. Just not sci-fi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paua Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 top ten you understand you are the only one who knows what that is......not ten million Over 60 years that is the best? fair enough list your top ten over last 60-etc years hint no one knows red dwarf......less than 10% of world..you may be only vote I love Red Dwarf. You're missing out, world ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paua Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Maybe this particular list doesn't have Red Dwarf because the author hasn't seen it. But really, it would never belong on a sci-fi top ten list, or bottom ten list, or any list, because it isn't sci-fi. It's comedy. Maybe it could be on a comedy top ten list. Or maybe, if you really like it, on an all-genre list. Just not sci-fi. Why can't sci-fi be comedy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Why can't sci-fi be comedy ?I personally perceive a connotation to the term "science fiction" that excludes material that is fundamentally comedy. If the primary purpose is to make the audience laugh, it is comedy. Just adding aliens or spaceships doesn't make it sci-fi, IMO. Of course there can be some amount of humor in true sci-fi (Star Trek, Firefly) but nobody would call those comedies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I personally perceive a connotation to the term "science fiction" that excludes material that is fundamentally comedy. If the primary purpose is to make the audience laugh, it is comedy. Just adding aliens or spaceships doesn't make it sci-fi, IMO. Of course there can be some amount of humor in true sci-fi (Star Trek, Firefly) but nobody would call those comedies.I think sci-fi can be comedy or horror as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 To me, 'Castle' is fundamentally a police procedural, yet it is labelled 'comedy'. :ph34r: I'm old school, I hate the term "sci-fi" because back in the day it was almost invariably used in a derogatory way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 1. Star Trek2. Twilight Zone3. Battlestar Galactica (the new one)4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer5. Doctor Who6. X Files7. Farscape8. Star Trek: The Next Generation9. Babylon 510. Stargate SG1 Third Rock from the Sun gets an honorable mention If fantasy is allowed, I'd add Game of Thrones into the mix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I like your list, but I think Buffy is fantasy. Agree about Game of Thrones. How about Firefly? I think I'd move Babylon 5 up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I like your list, but I think Buffy is fantasy. Agree about Game of Thrones. How about Firefly? I think I'd move Babylon 5 up a bit. fair enough. I can see bumping Buffy as fantasy. I loved Firefly, but it was only on for half a season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 And where is Red Dwarf? Absolutely agree Vampyr. Red Dwarf was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 At least he didn't list Lost in Space. Oh, I grew up watching this and the Jetsons. Not sure they wouldn't make my list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Maybe this particular list doesn't have Red Dwarf because the author hasn't seen it. But really, it would never belong on a sci-fi top ten list, or bottom ten list, or any list, because it isn't sci-fi. It's comedy. Maybe it could be on a comedy top ten list. Or maybe, if you really like it, on an all-genre list. Just not sci-fi.It's certainly possible for genres to overlap. There are comedy westerns (Blazing Saddles), comedy police procedurals (Barney Miller, Police Squad), comedy fantasies (I Dream of Jeannie, Bewitched). The Neighbors, Mork and Mindy, and My Favorite Martian are more examples of comedy sci-fi. Don't forget, this is the site that listed Firefly on its top 10 list for both sci-fi and westerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onoway Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 top ten you understand you are the only one who knows what that is......not ten million Over 60 years that is the best? fair enough list your top ten over last 60-etc years hint no one knows red dwarf......less than 10% of world..you may be only vote I loved Red Dwarf as well. And Dr Who. Also the Avengers with Patrick MacNee and Diana Rigg in particular. It got more and more sci-fi-ish as the years passed. All of them had elements of humor which were part of their appeal. Why should it have to be grim to be called sci-fi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Firefly was 14 episodes, including the pilot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 fair enough. I can see bumping Buffy as fantasy.I loved Firefly, but it was only on for half a season... Yeah, I'd bump Buffy as fantasy (unless you allow fantasy as part of sci-fi - which I consider a perfectly respectable and reasonable thing to do). I do think ST:DS9 is worthy of being on the list. But your list is much better than OP's list IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I have no problem with including fantasy in SF. After all, when I was growing up, my two favorite magazines were Analog and The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. But if we expand it, then "top ten" isn't a big enough list - we'd have to go to top fifteen at least. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Firefly was 14 episodes, including the pilot... and certainly it is eligible. If Fawlty Towers (12 episodes) is eligible as great comedy, Firefly surely is as sci-fi. Third Rock from the Sun was entertaining, but I can hardly imagine anything further from science fiction. Absurd to even mention it as such, IMO. Personally I separate fantasy as well, there is plenty of each to justify two categories. Many people lump them together though. I also think DS9 was the best Star Trek, especially the last 4 seasons or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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