Deal #24

[Kungsgeten]

Pass 2000 would systematically get the same result as the 1D 0-7 systems I guess. By 4H, South will have shown 17+ with 5+C and north will have shown 0-7. Our system when 17+ vs 0-7 is almost identical (or could be) to any strong club system.

[Zelandakh]

I'm thinking of putting 4HX down for everyone except jack502 and Pass2000.

Not for me. There is no way North is doubling rather than supporting diamonds.

[hrothgar]

 

What I'm trying to do is to leave out personal judgment here and only assign different outcomes due to system differences. I would think Pass2000 and Moscito would have the highest chance for deviation on this hand.

 

 

The big deviation on the MOSCITO auction would appear to be the fact that the 2♥ overcall is no longer a jump.

I think that this leads to a different set of inferences.

 

I posted two possible MOSCITO auctions upthread based on whether or not the partner of the 2♥ bidder decides to bid 4♥.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I don't see a convincing auction to 5♦.

Contracting for 11 tricks after a semi positive is hairy.

There are too many different layouts where 5♦ could go very wrong.

[straube]

ok. I think the outcomes are correct now. Please check. I have Zelandakh down for 5D and Hrothgar for 4H X and same for Pass2000.

[Lord Molyb]

.............T9874

.............void

.............AJ652

.............T84

KQ52.......................AJ3

J985........................AT7432

T..............................984

K632........................9

.............6

.............KQ6

.............KQ73

.............AQJ75

 

Molybdenum Forcing Pass System:

S ---- N

P --- 1♣ (2♥) (opening, 0-bad 12)

dbl (4♥) dbl (general takeout, 2 places to play)

P (opposite some values, the contract should go down sufficiently)

 

By the way, I changed first X from showing the other major(s) to takeout (much easier)

 

If east overcalled 1♥ and west cuebid it goes

S ---- N

P --- 1♣ (1♥) (see above)

2♣ (3♣) P (3♥) (clubs with 16+, not enough unless south bids more)

3NT --- 5♦ (both minors with longer clubs, signoff)

 

That auction is a bit optimistic though.

[Zelandakh]

Molybdenum Forcing Pass System:

Could you write an auction under the new conditions - East overcalls 2♥, West raises to 4♥.

[Lord Molyb]

Could you write an auction under the new conditions - East overcalls 2♥, West raises to 4♥.

done

[PrecisionL]

Upgraded Ultra Club Relay (C3):

 

1♣ P 1♦ (1♥

2♣ (3♣} Pass (3♥)

Pass P X P P

4♦

 

 

1♣ P 1♦ (2♥)

X (2-places to play) (4♥} 4♠ P

5♣ P 5♦ All pass

[CamHenry]

Unnamed Homebrew Diamond:

1♦-(P)-1♥-(2♥) 16+, excluding GF / 0-7 (almost) any

 

Difficult call for S here. 2NT is natural, so the spade singleton is unfortunate; double is takeout; pass is non-forcing. I think a likely continuation is:

 

3♣-(4♥)-P-(P) 5+ cards, "smallest lie" / nothing to say

X-(P)-4♠-P Penalties / no defense

4N-(P)-5♦-AP Two places to play / This looks like the best fit

 

Of course, this may well be -1 as it's difficult to avoid a club ruff. Other possible contracts include 4♥X, and 5♣ - the latter of which has trump control issues on a forcing defence, which is probably indicated on the auction.

 

I'll have to talk about this one with Matt.

[benlessard]

1D-3C (unb 4D, mixed raise 4 trumps+ruff power may have 4M)

3Nt

 

or more likely

 

1D-(P)-1S-(2H) (1S show 5S but nf)

X--(3H)-4D-?? (X is semi penalties, 4D is probably void in H or super fit no interest in 3Hx)

 

4Hx or 5D.

[whereagles]

Pet two-way pass:

 

pass (pass) 1♣ (1♥)

2♣ (3♥) 4♣ (4♥)

dbl

 

pass = 0-8 or 15+

1♣ = 0-8 or 15+

2♣ = natural, 15-20

4♣ = showing fit. you can't have it all..

 

Clean sweep completed. Having lunch now :)

[yunling]

System seems not to be as important as (opp's) judgement on this hand :(

Not quite sure but I think it would be something like

1♦(11-20 3+♦ unbal)-1♠(nat F1)

1NT(♥ or 16+)-2♦(nat minimum)-(2♥)

X(16+, no fit)-5♦