daveharty Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp1h2n]133|100[/hv] What do you consider the standard meaning of West's 2NT bid here, given: NS play a standard 5cM system, 1D is 4+ unless 4=4=3=2; andEW do not play Sandwich NT, 1NT would have been a strong balanced hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 ♠+♣ 5-5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yup, it's just a much more shapely and preemptive version of double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGF_Flame Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 it depends also on the meaning of 2D and 2H. if you use one of them or both of them to show 2 suiter then the 2NT becomes more shapy then the normal 5-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raff90 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 The difference between 2♦ and 2NT is that one is weaker then another.Thats at least what i play with my partner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Blacks. But I play that 2-red is natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Blacks. But I play that 2-red is natural.+1. I believe that is the standard expert treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 +1. I believe that is the standard expert treatment.Depends on which expert you ask. A method I have seen a fair bit in English circles is for 2♦ to show 6 clubs + 4 spades and for 2♥ to show 6 spades + 4 clubs. But if you go through a range of expert CCs you will see lots of possibilities for sandwich auctions mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Depends on which expert you ask. A method I have seen a fair bit in English circles is for 2♦ to show 6 clubs + 4 spades and for 2♥ to show 6 spades + 4 clubs. But if you go through a range of expert CCs you will see lots of possibilities for sandwich auctions mentioned.I don't think that "standard" means "universal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I don't think that "standard" means "universal." standard to me is 2♦ as spades and clubs. standard is also that 2nt is spades and clubs. i would prefer to play 2nt as minors still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Depends on which expert you ask. A method I have seen a fair bit in English circles is for 2♦ to show 6 clubs + 4 spades and for 2♥ to show 6 spades + 4 clubs. But if you go through a range of expert CCs you will see lots of possibilities for sandwich auctions mentioned. in 25 years of playing bridge in england i've never seen that once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 in 25 years of playing bridge in england i've never seen that once.Then you should play in Hertfordshire more. The best thing about this convention is its name - McCartney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Then you should play in Hertfordshire more. The best thing about this convention is its name - McCartney. I play Lennon - 2♦ shows six spades and four clubs, but 2♥ is natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne_LV Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp1h2n]133|100[/hv] What do you consider the standard meaning of West's 2NT bid here, given: NS play a standard 5cM system, 1D is 4+ unless 4=4=3=2; andEW do not play Sandwich NT, 1NT would have been a strong balanced hand. My regular partner and I do not play Sandwich NT but given the bidding would bid as follows: 1) dble would show 4-4 in the unbid suits and 8+ hcp 2) 2NT shows 5-5+ in the unbid suits and a weak hand (5-7 hcp). Why 2NT rather than 1NT? The weaker hands are less likely to win the contract and 2NT is more preemptive than 1NT. I suppose 1NT there would show a strong balanced hand (15-18 hcp) with stops in both of opp's suit, but I have yet to see one of those hands. With a very strong unbalanced hand we would cue bid 2♦, the lower of bid suits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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