dake50 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 For us, a double of NT is always penalty oriented.Constraints for doubling 1N: 17+ points. Should also have a good lead if minimum.Denying 5-5 majors?: Yes (in fact it even denies 5 spades with 4 hearts, or a 5 card major with a 5 card minor). It also denies a 6 card major.Could have a singleton or void, if for instance it has a long and strong minor suit.If partner has enough that a game is on, they will be in trouble in 1N. We have the lead, so we should get into our suits first. Not that it will always score better (hence why we prefer overcalling with very shapely major oriented hands).Partner should let the penalty double play unless they have 9+ points (8 if they have a good 5+ major).Are we alone in playing a double of 1N for penalty? I thought it was prety standard. *** Lucky! Your 20 points get 1NT-X down 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 dake, if you were N-S (and we are on this hand) would you rather be defending 1NTX or playing 2NT? This is the only point relknes is making. Whether a 10-12 NT is a good idea or not cannot be shown by a single hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 p 2N AP 2N is not heavy since it's a 15-17 NT spot (so 18-19 for 1C 1N, 20-21 for the rebid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM75 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 OCP 1♣ - 1♦1♥ - 1♠ - cambridge hearts, or real hearts - relay2N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 OCP 1♣ - 1♦1♥ - 1♠ 19+balanced or will qualify in future bid, relay1N 19-21 balanced OCP 1♣ - 1♦1♥ - 1♠ - cambridge hearts, or real hearts - relay2N Funny :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Funny :P Very. I guess it is an appropriate time for: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesman and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood. Way to be great FM75. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Maybe he just miscounted the hand as 22 points today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Molybdenum pass system:N......S1♣!!!-1NT (0-10 with 4 clubs, 15+)2♣- 2NT (0-3, 20-21 balanced)P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I do not understand Lord Molyb. How can North pass an unlimited bid from partner? Perhaps South has 36 hcp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I do not understand Lord Molyb. How can North pass an unlimited bid from partner? Perhaps South has 36 hcp!fixed.by the way you seem to love poking little holes in my uncompleted system (which is still terrible :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Upgraded Ultra Club Relay / C3 = Copious Canape Club - - 1♣ -1♦ - 1♥ = 4+♥ or 2+♥ and balanced 19+ hcp -1NT = Artificial, double negative 0-4 hcp and no Ace All Pass Contract: 1NT by North Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Unnamed Homebrew Diamond:2♣-2♦ Weak ♦ OR weak majors OR GF majors OR 20-23 bal / pass-or-correct2N-Pass Balanced option We lose out here: it would be nice to be able to stop in 1NT but there's always compromises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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