straube Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction. .........................T972.........................87643.........................T5.........................K4K6............................................AJ543J95...........................................KQJ2..........................................9864AJ872......................................T93.........................Q8.........................AQT2.........................AK73.........................Q65 Outcomes 2H S SCREAM2H S Silent Club1N S relknes2H S TOSR2H S Precision by the_clown2H S Precision by Free3H S Zelandakh2H N jack5022H S Moscito3H S Jasmine Club2H S Unassuming Club2H S Imprecision 2H S Meckwell Light 3H N Malfoir (1D opening)2H S Polish Club (1N opening)2H N Pass200 (forcing pass opening)2H S New Big Club (HK) (1N opening)1D S OCP (1D opening) East may balance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 .........................T972.........................87643.........................T5.........................K4K6............................................AJ543J95...........................................KQJ2..........................................9864AJ872......................................T93.........................Q8.........................AQT2.........................AK73.........................Q65 SCREAM bids this... 1C-1S 16+, 0-2 QPs1N-2C bal or semi-unbal, Stayman2H We use the same NT structure for double negatives and semipositives as we do for passed hand situations. I'd recommend this to others. Fairly boring deal but nice to finally have two double negative hands. I think I'll post the next deal already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Silent Club: 1♣-1♦ strong; most 0-7, some GFs1♥-1♠ art min, waiting; 0-71N-2♣ 16-18 bal; stayman2♥-P Responser can check for the 4-4 major, and sign off in 2M if no 4-4 fit is found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction. .........................T972.........................87643.........................T5.........................K4K6............................................AJ543J95...........................................KQJ2..........................................9864AJ872......................................T93.........................Q8.........................AQT2.........................AK73.........................Q651♣ - 1♦1N - P Translation:S: 16+, N: 0-8S: 16-19 balanced, N: lets play 1N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Quick question about West's pass over the strong 1♣. Might some people, with 12 high card points and a good 5 card suit, overcall 2♣ with the west hand? A lot of people like to compete prety agressively over a strong club, even at unfavorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 That doesn't look like a "good" 5 card club suit to me. I'd much sooner overall 1♠ as East after a negative bid than 2♣ as West in a live auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Quick question about West's pass over the strong 1♣. Might some people, with 12 high card points and a good 5 card suit, overcall 2♣ with the west hand? A lot of people like to compete prety agressively over a strong club, even at unfavorable. *** Don't like this suit for 2C. BUT opponents WILL get to 2S or 3C, NOW WHAT???*** Should we go 3H? North sees shape without defense, yes, this hand.*** Part of system comparing is "how well placed are we in competition?"*** What defense/offense inferences are known to your systems? Esp. on this auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM75 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 OCP Yuck! Vulnerable, I am all over 13-15 1N on this junk. NV, I have 1m as choices!1♦ - p probably not playing it here... but it has happened.Uncontested auction... OK waiting. :)If you have to play in a Burn's Law violation, this is the best level for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 2♥S for tosr 1♣-1♦ : any 16+; 0-7 or occ 8+ with <2 ctls1nt-2♦ : 16-18 bal; transfer2♥ : accept S is close to a super accept. If one of the Q were an K then 2nt to show heart fit, 2 of the top 3 honors, and 2.5 QT outside would be available. But with both black quacks a simple 2♥ is the system and table bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Precision: 1♣-1♦1♥-1♠1NT-2♣2♥ South showing 17-19 bal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilver Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hilversumse Klaveren (HK) 1NT - 2♣2♥ Explanation: 1NT = 16-18 balanced2♣ = Stayman relay2♥ = 4/5 card ♥ Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 1C-1D (16+ ; 0-7 any or GF 4441)1NT-2D (17-18 bal ; transfer)2H-pass (not worth a super accept imo ; ok) With 5S-4H we start wit stayman because opener is supposed to correct to 2S with a 3 card. With 5H-4S we just transfer and hope we don't miss our S fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any... - 1♦ = most non-GF1NT = 15-17 bal or 4414... - 2♦ = 5+ hearts (pass seems like it should be an alternative)2NT = 4+ hearts, not 3433 or 4414, max... - 3♦ = puppet to 3♥3♥ Do we really believe the opps will not compete if we stop in 2♥ here? It is one thing coming into a live auction but once the opps stop you know partner has some values. Based on a recent post from Andy (gnasher) it seems that Brits super-accept far more often than Americans. Perhaps this is an example of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack502 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 1♣1♠1nt 2♥ 1♠=dbl negative1nt 15-20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Oops Edited January 30, 2013 by hrothgar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 MOSCITO auction 1♣ - 1♠ 1♠ = double negative1N - 2♣ 1N = 15-17 2♣ = Stayman (planning to bid 2♥ over 2♦)2♥ - Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 OCP Yuck! Vulnerable, I am all over 13-15 1N on this junk. NV, I have 1m as choices!1♦ - p probably not playing it here... but it has happened.Uncontested auction... OK waiting. :)If you have to play in a Burn's Law violation, this is the best level for it. Hm. I hadn't considered that possibility because I'm focused on strong club. Akhare said he wouldn't overcall with East's hand against a strong club but this is a balancing situation. My vote is to pass because the opponents obviously have a heart fit and I suspect South has an 18-19 balanced hand. Even if we have a spade fit I think we're outgunned. How do others feel about 1D passed out? Would others balance 1S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any... - 1♦ = most non-GF1NT = 15-17 bal or 4414... - 2♦ = 5+ hearts (pass seems like it should be an alternative)2NT = 4+ hearts, not 3433 or 4414, max... - 3♦ = puppet to 3♥3♥ Do we really believe the opps will not compete if we stop in 2♥ here? It is one thing coming into a live auction but once the opps stop you know partner has some values. Based on a recent post from Andy (gnasher) it seems that Brits super-accept far more often than Americans. Perhaps this is an example of that. I think the opponents pass throughout. I posted East's hand in the comparing systems thread and Akhare wouldn't overcall 1S (confirmed my thought but is their best opportunity imo to enter the auction) and I don't see either opponent wanting to compete at the 2 or 3-level. If others feel differently they can opine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction. .........................T972.........................87643.........................T5.........................K4K6............................................AJ543J95...........................................KQJ2..........................................9864AJ872......................................T93.........................Q8.........................AQT2.........................AK73.........................Q65 Pass 2000 Again, our auction will not be uncontested (unless they play some kind of defense to our forcing pass, which I guess they do not). Assuming they play some sort of natural system: P* - (1C) - P - (1S); South's pass is 0-7 or 17+, north's pass assumes the weak hand, and we play our normal defense methods here (fairly standard) but may make tactical bids since partner is usually 0-7 hcp. Dbl - (P) - 2H - all pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 How about if West opens a weak 1NT, Kungsgeten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 How about if West opens a weak 1NT, Kungsgeten? Weak NT is very uncommon at the club we tend to play this system. We haven't discussed balancing by a pass opener after they open 1NT, but if we play our general agreements (the weak hand can not act, the strong hand must act) and our normal weak NT defense (basic Landy) it would go something like this: P - (1NT*) - P - (2H**); (1NT 12-14, assuming they play transfers.)Dbl - (P*) - P - (2S); Dbl shows hearts, I guess we really should have five, but what to do? I guess their pass would show only two spades?P - (P) - 3H - all pass If they play 2M as natural, it becomes even more awkward: P - (1NT) - P - 2S;Dbl - (P) - 3H - all pass (perhaps it would make sense to play Lebensohl here, but we do not have any agreements on that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think the more common defence to a double of a transfer is for bidding to show 2 and passing to show 3. After a pass, many play XX as a re-transfer and bidding the major as an invite. Your defence is also interesting. Most pairs either play X = hearts and 2♠ = takeout or X = takeout and 2♠ = Michaels. I would have thought South should be able to make some sort of takeout bid over 2♥. In any case, it looks like all paths lead to 3♥(N) here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonylee Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 For me it'll be a simple strong NT-stayman (if 2♦, will bid 2♥)-2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Zelandakh: Yes, we do play that their suit is for take-out (I just forgot), and that would probably be a better bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 #22. You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction. Jasmine ♣ North ♠ T972 ♥ 87643 ♦ T5 ♣ K4: __ 1♦ 2♦ South ♠ Q8 ♥ AQT2 ♦ AK73 ♣ Q65: 1♣ 1N 3♥1♣ = Art, 16+.1♦ = Art, neg, 0-7,1N = Nat, flat, 16-182♦ = Transfer.3♥ = Nat, 4♥.Marks, IMO: 2♥ = 10. 3♥ = 8. 4♥ = 6. 1N = 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.