Fluffy Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 ♠KQ10x♥x♦J109x♣Kxxx IMPs, our side vulnerable pass-(pass)-1♦!-(1 ♥ )1 ♠ - ( 2 ♥ )-2♠-(pass)?? 1♦ is precision 2+, limited to 15. 11-13 if balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 The opener is likely to hold 4432 , 4423 , 4333 ,4342 or 4324,so I'd invite to bid 3♣, and then I'd pass if the opener refuse invitation to game or I'd bid 4♠ if the opener rebid 3♦ for a reverse invitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 The opener is likely to hold 4432 , 4423 , 4333 ,4342 or 4324,so I'd invite to bid 3♣, and then I'd pass if the opener refuse invitation to game or I'd bid 4♠ if the opener rebid 3♦ for a reverse invitation.And that is why I would want to PASS. Partner can't have a maximum hand, because then (s)he would either have shape and made more noise over 2♥, or be balanced and have opened 1NT. And not even all maximums are good for us, we need a near perfect max to cover all of our losers. This doesn't even include if/when partner decided to lie with 3 cards hoping to crack them in 3♥, or because (s)he thought you showed 5+ with 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 My first thought was to invite... and my second thought was, partner already knows I have a singleton heart, and has already failed to get excited, like he would if he had A32 of hearts and knew all his other cards were working. He's either dead minimum or has wastage in hearts and just made a courtesy 2S call. Voted pass. Even though with the same cards after 1D-P-1S-P-2S I'd be considering blasting before settling for an invitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Pass looks to me completely obviousAs I understand modern precision, if opener is unbalanced with 4 spades and more than 13 HCP he would have jump raised and might have done so with less. A simulation gave the following result: Partner either 11-13 balanced or 10-13 unbalanced, 4 spades, 2+ diamonds less than 6 clubsRHO exactly 5 hearts (no weak two),at most 3 spades (partly because no double, partly LHO might have bid more with shortage in spades), at most 11 HCP LHO 3-4 hearts at most 11 HCP Result (1000 deals) : Average number of tricks in ♠: 8.77Game makes on 228 deals : 22.8%3♠ makes on 614 deals : 61.4%2♠ makes on 902 deals : 90.2% Count me out. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sorry, missed the precision part of it. Yes, I pass this. This is the point of opening light, so that partner won't get carried away. Inviting game is getting carried away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Partner had ♠Jxxx♥KJ10x♦AQ8x♣J He rejected my invitation in clubs, we losed 10 to the other table blasting, obviously the cards were onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I wouldn't lose much sleep over missing that one. On a trump lead you'll be struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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