Deal #21

[straube]

You are South and dealer. V vs NV. Imps. This deal was played by a local expert pair. If possible, East overcalls 1H. West competes to 3H or cues 3C if available.

 

............................T5432

............................K832

............................853

............................2

A97.......................................................KQ6

A94.......................................................QJT75

A962.....................................................T4

853.......................................................974

............................J8

............................6

............................KQJ7

............................AKQJT6

 

Outcomes

 

3C S SCREAM

3C S Moscito

3H E relknes

3H E Precision by Free

3H E Polish Club

3H E Silent Club

3H E qplus10

3H E Zelandakh

3H E New Big Club (HK)

3C S jack502

3H E OCP

3H E TOSR

3H E Unassuming Club

2S N Malfoir

3H E Imprecision

3H E Meckwell Light

 

3H E Pass2000 (forcing pass opening)

[straube]

 

............................T5432

............................K832

............................853

............................2

A97.......................................................KQ6

A94.......................................................QJT75

A962.....................................................T4

853.......................................................974

............................J8

............................6

............................KQJ7

............................AKQJT6

 

The actual auction went 1C P 1D (1H) 2C (3C) P (3H) 3N P 4C

 

My guess that 3N showed side diamonds. West was kind not to double.

 

SCREAM bids this...

 

1C-1S (16+, DN)

3C-p (to play)

[relknes]

I will open 1♣.

If partner responds with 1♦, I will bid 2♣ (16-~21, 5+, no 4+ major if 16-17), intending to raise diamonds, or rebid clubs after a major suit response. Slam is no longer in the picture after partner's 1♦.

If partner bids 1M (GF, 9+ points, 5+ suit) I will respond with 2♣ (unbalanced, 5+) intending to bid diamonds later.

If partner bids 1N (9+ points, balanced, GF) I will respond with 3♣ (setting trump and asking partner to make a reverse-cuebid)

If partner bids 2♣ (highly unlikely, as it shows 9+ points, 5+ clubs, unbalanced) I will bid 3♥ (splinter)

If partner bids 2♦ I will also bid 3♥ as a splinter.

If partner bids 2M, showing 5-8 points and 6+ in the major and denying 4+ in the other major, I will respond with 3♣ and continue based on what they show.

If partner makes an "Unusual positive" I will make the key-ask and explore a minor suit slam.

 

This is obviously a slammish hand, needing 3 working cards to make 6♣

[JLOGIC]

2c nf for me also

[antonylee]

Start with 2♣ (15-19) and see where we get from there.

[Kungsgeten]

Pass 2000

 

pass - 1C (0-7 / 17+ ; 0-7 / 17+);

(1H) (assuming they would still bid this)

2C - (3C) - pass - (3H); (2C shows 17+ and is natural)

pass

[Free]

1♣-1♦-(1♥) (16+ ; 0-7 or GF 4441)

2♣-(3♣)-Dbl?-(3♥) (nat NF ; pass would ask for a ♣ lead so I suppose partner doubles)

pass

[relknes]

To the second part of the problem:

 

 

 

Depends on what partner did over the cuebid

 

After:

1♣-P-1♦-(1♥)

2♣-(3♣)-X-3♥

 

I would go 4♣ (partner's double shows a hand that would have competed to 3♣ but doesn't have enough to raise to 4♣. If they wanted to make a takeout double, they would pass and balance with a double)

 

After:

1♣-P-1♦-(1♥)

2♣-(3♣)-P-3♥

 

I would pass.

 

 

[antonylee]

Pass, not hard at all to imagine hands where 4♣X could go fo 500 whereas there aren't that many hands where game makes. May be harder w/w at matchpoints...

 

Edit after seeing all hands: so I'll end up defending 3♥.

[rbforster]

2♣ followed by pass, when partner fails to act over their cue.

[qplus10]

1♣1♦(1♥)

2♥(3♣) pass (3♥)

(not sure why it chose 2♥ and not 3♣ as in a similar previous hand it was close 0.1 imps in it)

pass 3♠

 

 

 

 

not sure what 2♥ shd be i'll read the thread and see if anyone mentions it.

[Zelandakh]

I think this is going to be a bad hand for me.

 

After

1♣ - (P) - 1♦ - 1♥;

2♦ - 3♥,

where 2♦ shows an Acol 2 in a minor (8 tricks or 21+), would North still pass? If so then I guess I have to pass too (partner must be broke) but it stinks and we could still have a huge club fit. Maybe I should switch to the "EBU variant", where an Acol 2 in clubs gets opened with a 2♦ Multi; it is the second one where the 2♦ rebid has caused problems. But I do so prefer the weak only method...

 

Note: I wrote this before you revealed the hands. It looks like my bid being an Acol 2 rather than non-forcing does not change anything and I just get to defend 3♥(E). I cannot say I like it though.

[Zelandakh]

qplus, West will raise to 3♥ in your auction as South did not bid clubs. That probably does not alter the outcome but you never know with computers so it is worth checking.

[Free]

I don't understand why a '1 hand with spoilers'-format is changed so quickly to a full deal problem. You have like 8 responses to one problem and from now on people will respond to another problem.

[hrothgar]

MOSCITO auction

 

1♣ - 1♠ (1♠ = double negative)

3♣ (3♣ = clubs

Pass

[straube]

I don't understand why a '1 hand with spoilers'-format is changed so quickly to a full deal problem. You have like 8 responses to one problem and from now on people will respond to another problem.

 

Sorry if it wasn't enough time. I waited maybe 10 hours after posting the initial problem which I thought would be enough for most people to think about how high they would like to compete. I wanted to give the 0-7 folks the full value of the problem since they can't entirely be sure partner has nothing at their last chance to bid.

[nige1]

#21 You are South and dealer; V vs NV ;Imps;This deal was played by a local expert pair; If possible, East overcalls 1H;West competes to 3H or cues 3C if available.

Jasmine ♣

North ♠ T5432 ♥ K832 ♦ 853 ♣ 2: __ 1♦ _P

East ..........................: __ 1♥ 3♥

South ♠ J8 ♥ 6 ♦ KQJ7 ♣ AKQJT6: 1♣ 2♣ AP

West ..........................: _P 3♣

• 1♣ = Art, 16+.
• 1♦ = Art, neg, 0-7.
• 2♣ = Nat

3♥ is likely to be the final contract but South might double 3♥. Then North has a close choice between pass and 3♠.

 

Marks, IMO: 1♠, 1N, 2♣ = 10. (3♥/(3♥X) = 8. 3♣ = 5. 3♠/4♣ = 1.

[Hilver]

Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

 

1♣ - (P) - 1♦ - (1♥)

2♣ - (2♥) - p - (p)

3♣ - (3♥) - p - (p)

 

Explanation:

1♣ = 16+, not a balanced 16-20

1♦ = denying several one or two suited hands with 0-7 HCP. With 4 HCP North would have bid 1♥ = 4-4 or 4-5 in the majors and 4-7 HCP.

2♣ = natural, 5+ clubs

3♣ = strong enough to compete at the 3-level

 

Jan

[straube]

Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

 

1♣ - (P) - 1♦ - (1♥)

2♣ - (2♥) - p - (p)

3♣ - (3♥) - p - (p)

 

Explanation:

1♣ = 16+, not a balanced 16-20

1♦ = denying several one or two suited hands with 0-7 HCP. With 4 HCP North would have bid 1♥ = 4-4 or 4-5 in the majors and 4-7 HCP.

2♣ = natural, 5+ clubs

3♣ = strong enough to compete at the 3-level

 

Jan

 

I think you're 2H raise is very reasonable, but the opponents on the actual deal cue bid clubs so I'd like to set the problem up that way. 3C P 3H ?

[Free]

Sorry if it wasn't enough time. I waited maybe 10 hours after posting the initial problem which I thought would be enough for most people to think about how high they would like to compete. I wanted to give the 0-7 folks the full value of the problem since they can't entirely be sure partner has nothing at their least chance to bid.

Since these deals are posted on a daily basis, perhaps it would be better to wait 24 hours. Just a suggestion ;)

[jack502]

1♣1♠

2♠3♣

 

 

 

 

1♠=dbl negative

2♠= transfer to clubs

 

 

jack has done pretty well only one hand where it did badly so far.

 

I think i will give up on qplus10 as I don't think we can learn anything from its bidding.

[Hilver]

I think you're 2H raise is very reasonable, but the opponents on the actual deal cue bid clubs so I'd like to set the problem up that way. 3C P 3H ?

 

Okay, so the auction will be:

 

Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

 

1♣ - (p) - 1♦ - (1♥)

2♣ - (3♣)- p - (3♥)

all pass

 

Explanation:

1♣ = 16+, not a balanced 16-20

1♦ = denying several one or two suited hands with 0-7 HCP. With 4 HCP North would have bid 1♥ = 4-4 or 4-5 in the majors and 4-7 HCP.

2♣ = natural, 5+ clubs

 

No action by North over Wests 3♣-bid, so no action by South either.

 

Jan

[hrothgar]

jack has done pretty well only one hand where it did badly so far.

 

I think i will give up on qplus10 as I don't think we can learn anything from its bidding.

 

I am glad to have Jack participating.

 

Its hard for a mere human to bid these hands objectively, so its nice to see hwat a computer is able to do playing a similar system.

[FM75]

OCP

 

1♣ - p - 1♦ - (1♥) ---- if W had overcalled, north pass shows 0-4

2♣ - (3♣) - p - 3♥

p

Even with opposite vulnerability, I don't really have anything to say.

 

 

 

[Mbodell]

Not sure on this one. By system it is probably 3♥E or 4♣S. But at table we got to 4♠S.

 

at table:

1♣-P-1♦-1♥ : 16+ unbal or 18+ bal; 0-7 or occ 8+ with <2 ctls

2♣-3♣-P-3♥ : nat, nf (pass would have been forcing); no real special meaning for pass

X-P-4♠ : t/o; try game in spades

 

by system (I.e. better judgement):

1♣-P-1♦-1♥ : 16+ unbal or 18+ bal; 0-7 or occ 8+ with <2 ctls

2♣-3♣-P-3♥ : nat, nf (pass would have been forcing); no real special meaning for pass

? 4♣ or P : likely to have at least 8-9 tricks in own hand, hope partner can help

 

I guess the X of 3♥ is a bit too risky, especially since the hand has poor defense to offense, so if wanting to compete 4♣ is probably more correct.