straube Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. IMPs. If possible, your RHO will overcall 1S. ................J8................QJ97643................J9................ATT5.............................AK642A52..........................voidQT72........................86539762........................JT53................Q973................KT8................AK4................KQ8 Outcomes 4H N SCREAM4H S Silent Club4H N relknes4H N Precision by Free4H S IMprecision4H N Precision by the_clown4H S Zelandakh4H N Moscito4H S mycroft4H N Meckwell Light4H S Jasmine Club4H N Unassuming Club4H N OCP 4H S Polish Club (1N opening)4H S New Big Club (1N opening)4H N Pass200 (strong pass) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. IMPs. If possible, your RHO will overcall 1S. ................J8................QJ97643................J9................ATT5.............................AK642A52..........................voidQT72........................86539762........................JT53................Q973................KT8................AK4................KQ8 SCREAM will bid this... 1C-1H (1S) 16+, 2-4 QPs1N-4D 17-18, transfer4H We don't have very good agreements over 1S interference and aren't bashful about showing a minimum balanced hand with a stopper. I think a properly designed defense would require this hand to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Silent Club: 1♣-1♦-(1♠) strong; most 0-7 and GFs with heartsP-3♥ min bal or trap usually; natural GF4♥-P Good thing East didn't overcall 1♥ - that'd be a real test of ones agreements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. IMPs. If possible, your RHO will overcall 1S. ................J8................QJ97643................J9................ATT5.............................AK642A52..........................voidQT72........................86539762........................JT53................Q973................KT8................AK4................KQ8 1♣ - 1♥ (1♠)3♥ - 4♥P Translation:S: 16+, N: 5+ hearts, 9+, GF, E: overcallS: heart fit, 0-5 controls, no singleton or void, N: 0-3 controls, signoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Our auction starts fairly simple:1♣-1♥ (16+ ; GF 5+♥)2♥-3♥ (3 card raise ; no side suits to mention)3♠-? (frivolous) Now North can just signoff in 4♥ or start a cuebidding sequence if he's really optimistic. That would be over quickly as well:...-4♣ (♣ cue without ♠ cue)4♥-pass (no ♠ cue either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 IMprecision: 1♣ - 1NT (strong, 5+♥ with 5+HCP 2-6RP)2♥ - 4♥ (min usually doubleton heart NF, to play) The 4333 and dead min prompts a 2♥ bid; we can also bid 3♥ (min with three card support) but I'd rather take the low road on this hand. North has an easy game bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Precision 1♣-1♥ (8-11 any)-1♠1N-2♦2♥-3♥4♣-4♥ (4♣ denies ♠ control) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any... - 1NT = hearts or hearts and clubs, GF2♦ = 15-17 bal, no 5M (but 4 hearts possible)... - 4♦ = puppet to 4♥4♥ It seems like a waste of time for North to look for slam opposite 15-17 balanced. It really does require absolutely perfect cards. If they did then the lack of a spade control would show up but 4♥ would be played by North instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonylee Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Strong NT, Texas, next hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilver Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hilversumse Klaveren (HK) 1NT - 4♦4♥ Explanation:1NT = 16-18 balanced4♦ = Texas, transfer to ♥, long hearts, no interest in slam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. IMPs. If possible, your RHO will overcall 1S. ................J8................QJ97643................J9................ATT5.............................AK642A52..........................voidQT72........................86539762........................JT53................Q973................KT8................AK4................KQ8 MOSCITO 1♣ - 2♥2N - 3♣3N 2♥ = Semi positive with Hearts, single suited2NT = Range ask3♣ = Max, no shortage3N = To play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I hate heart hands... 1♣-2♦ (heart GF)2♥-2♠ (0-2 controls)4♥. Yes, one of these days responder is going to have a void and we're either going to miss 6 or push on to a non-making 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 1C 1H (1S) (strong, 8-11 any)1N 4D (17-18 bal with spades stopped, texas)4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 SCREAM will bid this... 1C-1H (1S) 16+, 2-4 QPs1N-4D 17-18, transfer4H We don't have very good agreements over 1S interference and aren't bashful about showing a minimum balanced hand with a stopper. I think a properly designed defense would require this hand to pass. If I passed then bid NT I would think it would show more doubt about my spade stopper. With Q97x I don't think we should show doubt since we have a double stopper opposite very little help (like the ten). We also don't have much interest in avoiding NT since we have 333 in the other suits. That said, with Qxxx and 4(432) I would like passing. And of course with Axx or Qxx type holdings, I would like to pass. I debated with Kev once about the idea that a direct 1N bid shows 21+ balanced but it didn't make that much sense, that hand type is rare when partner shows 8-11 and they overcall and it's not that useful to save all the space anyways (we have 29+ so 4N is usually safe). On the other hand, differentiating between how much we wanted to bid NT (aka how much doubt we had about our stopper) seems useful in natural auctions when we have 17-18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 If I passed then bid NT I would think it would show more doubt about my spade stopper. With Q97x I don't think we should show doubt since we have a double stopper opposite very little help (like the ten). We also don't have much interest in avoiding NT since we have 333 in the other suits. That said, with Qxxx and 4(432) I would like passing. And of course with Axx or Qxx type holdings, I would like to pass. I debated with Kev once about the idea that a direct 1N bid shows 21+ balanced but it didn't make that much sense, that hand type is rare when partner shows 8-11 and they overcall and it's not that useful to save all the space anyways (we have 29+ so 4N is usually safe). On the other hand, differentiating between how much we wanted to bid NT (aka how much doubt we had about our stopper) seems useful in natural auctions when we have 17-18. You're in a game-forcing auction and favorable vulnerability with Q97x behind the spade overcaller. I think it would be nice to keep the option of playing 1S doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 You're in a game-forcing auction and favorable vulnerability with Q97x behind the spade overcaller. I think it would be nice to keep the option of playing 1S doubled. Are you passing a double from your partner? I play Xs as t/o even in a GF auction and I would not pass with Q97x. But yeah if I was planning to trap pass I could always do so. I guess you could play some system completely designed to get them like X is penalty by opener, takeout X bids 2S, and when you pass you show some spades or bal GF no stop and partners X is penalty in context (you pull with bal GF no stop). You gain getting them when opener has a non trap like this but partner has some spade help. I think you lose too much though, not being able to X with a takeout X shape and having to cuebid uses up a lot of room, and I think actual t/o Xs need to be able to show them immediately in case of competition. If openers X is not penalty then responders X must be takeout since if he has a stiff spade and it goes 1C p 1H 1S p p it is about 100 % that partner has a trap pass heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Are you passing a double from your partner? I play Xs as t/o even in a GF auction and I would not pass with Q97x. But yeah if I was planning to trap pass I could always do so. I guess you could play some system completely designed to get them like X is penalty by opener, takeout X bids 2S, and when you pass you show some spades or bal GF no stop and partners X is penalty in context (you pull with bal GF no stop). You gain getting them when opener has a non trap like this but partner has some spade help. I think you lose too much though, not being able to X with a takeout X shape and having to cuebid uses up a lot of room, and I think actual t/o Xs need to be able to show them immediately in case of competition. If openers X is not penalty then responders X must be takeout since if he has a stiff spade and it goes 1C p 1H 1S p p it is about 100 % that partner has a trap pass heh. We play doubles in a GF auction as penalty in direct seat and cooperative in balancing seat (excepting when they have a relay step meaning). Since no suit information has been exchanged in your auction, I can see how takeout doubles are useful. They seem less useful the more information about our suit holdings is known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 #14. You are South and dealer. NV vs V. IMPs. If possible, your RHO will overcall 1S. Jasmine ♣North ♠ J8 ♥ QJ97643 ♦ J9 ♣ AT: __ 3♦ 3NSouth ♠ Q973 ♥ KT8 ♦ AK4 ♣ KQ8: 1♣ 3♥ 4♥1♣ = Art, 16+.3♦ = Transfer, good long suit.3♥ = Key-ask (other bids Nat).3N = 1/4 keys.4♥ Nat.Marks, IMO: 4♥ = 10. 3N = 9. 4N = 8. Partscores = 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 The obvious 1C-p-1H-(1S)-1NT path to 4H applies for Unassuming. No Texas hiccup, probably just placing the contract at 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 We play doubles in a GF auction as penalty in direct seat and cooperative in balancing seat (excepting when they have a relay step meaning). Since no suit information has been exchanged in your auction, I can see how takeout doubles are useful. They seem less useful the more information about our suit holdings is known. This makes sense, thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 You are South and dealer. NV vs V. IMPs. If possible, your RHO will overcall 1S. ................J8................QJ97643................J9................ATT5.............................AK642A52..........................voidQT72........................86539762........................JT53................Q973................KT8................AK4................KQ8 Pass 20001C (any 12-16 unbal or 15-17 bal) - 1H (8-11, may be canapé) - (1S);2D (INV+ with 3 hearts)-2H (minimum, usually 5+ hearts);3NT (choice of games)-4H; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM75 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 OCP 1♣ - 1♥ (1♠)p - 3♣ trump ask in ♥ (1 suit below interference), 7 card suit with A or Q (since I hold the K)4♣ - 4♦ control ask, 0-24♥ - we only have 5-7 controls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 4♥ N tosr. 1♣-1nt : 16+; 8+ hcp, 2+ ctls, 4+H2♣-2♠ : relay; short spades2nt-3♣ : relay; 2=7=2=23♦-3♥ : relay; 2 ctls (A=2, K=1)4♥ : considered 3nt, but decided 4H is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qplus10 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 1♣1♥(1♠)3♥4♥(3♥ and 2♥have almost the same description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack502 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 1♣2♣2♥4♥ 2♣=semi positive one suiter hearts or 5 spades and a minor2♥= 15-18 2-4 hearts convertable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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