Fluffy Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Ops vul, IMPs( 1 ♣ )-1♥-( pass )-1♠( 2 ♣ )-2♦-(double)-3♣(double)-rdbl-(pass)-3♥(pass) Paint a hand for partner. Agreements on his first bid are: 2♣ cuebid 10+ normally with support, 1/1 4+ cards forcing, 2/1 NF constructive, fit jumps at all levels except splinter 4♣. Your redouble showed ♣A without supporting honnor. opponet's doubles are penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Ops vul, IMPs( 1 ♣ )-1♥-( pass )-1♠( 2 ♣ )-2♦-(double)-3♣(double)-rdbl-(pass)-3♥(pass) Paint a hand for partner. Agreements on his first bid are: 2♣ cuebid 10+ normally with support, 1/1 4+ cards forcing, 2/1 NF constructive, fit jumps at all levels except splinter 4♣. Your redouble showed ♣A without supporting honnor. opponet's doubles are penalty. my best guess something like AxxxxQxKxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I expect he has ♥Hx and no club honour, but diamonds that are too weak to want to play 2♦xx. Something like AKQxx Ax xxx xxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I would expect something like ♠AQxxxx ♥Qx ♦x ♣Axxx Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Maybe something like: ♠AKJxx♥Kx♦A♣xxxxx Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I would expect something like ♠AQxxxx ♥Qx ♦x ♣AxxxSince we showed the ♣A, I am pretty confident this is not partner's hand... Andy's hand looks the most likely to me so far - 5 very good spades, ♥Hx and little to nothing in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Since we showed the ♣A, I am pretty confident this is not partner's hand...Okay I thought openers RDBL showed first round control, not necessarily the ♣A. In this case I presume he has ♠AKxxxx ♥Qx ♦A ♣xxxx Andy's hand looks the most likely to me so far - 5 very good spades, ♥Hx and little to nothing in the minors.With that hand it would never occur to me to disturb 2♦ doubled. If in an aggressive mood I might redouble, but 3♣ could be cheap. The hand is far too weak for a 3♣ bid after RHO doubles 2♦. He has short clubs and long diamonds. Where are you going? Probably into a telephone-number world. Do you really believe 4♥ will play well after a club lead? You must be joking or need a basic class in hand evaluation.A good player takes not only partner's bids into account but also those of the opponents. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 you are right rainer, redouble is first round control, I supose with void the bid would be the same and 3NT would be removed. But with ♣AJ9 3NT woul take preference over redouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 ♠AQTxxx ♥KJ ♦Ax ♣xxx I think it is going to end in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 The consensous is against me :( bid these 2:[hv=pc=n&w=s5hak952dk863ca72&e=sajt743hjt73dac83]266|100[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Was East looking for slam? Although I don't agree with East's bidding, I can't see how it can have ended badly. Presumably he bid 4♥ on the next round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 no next round, +230, the 'good' news is that team mates collected -1400 in 5♣X so it didn't matter much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 The consensous is against me :( bid these 2:[hv=pc=n&w=s5hak952dk863ca72&e=sajt743hjt73dac83]266|100[/hv] Fit-showing jumps in comp wins again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 [hv=pc=n&e=saj9854hq6da2cj84]133|100[/hv] it seem like that,I think all of strange bids are forcing,however oppsite of opener's singleton of S, partner can't make 4S,so rebid 3H is doubletons with a top card.its goal is to let the partner choose best game style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 East jumps in spades and West bids 4♥? Seems like an easy hand unless you want to reach 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Fit-showing jumps in comp wins again.I don't see how it matters whether you play fit jumps or not. After the 1♥ overcall East has an obvious drive to game, so regardless of the partnership's methods the auction should end in 4♥. East's actions may have been strange, but the moment that the auction really went wrong was when West passed a forcing bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 don't you like 6♥ on this cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 don't you like 6♥ on this cards?I think it is irrelevant as I do not think it will be bid without peeking. Sure I could carefully construct an auction if you like, but it would be nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 don't you like 6♥ on this cards?6♥ looks playable but not cold. If you want to be in it, I don't think either your auction or a fit-jump is going to get you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I don't see how it matters whether you play fit jumps or not. After the 1♥ overcall East has an obvious drive to game, so regardless of the partnership's methods the auction should end in 4♥. East's actions may have been strange, but the moment that the auction really went wrong was when West passed a forcing bid. West wasn't able to picture East's hand on this bidding. West made a judgment call. After a fit jump, West would have known 4♥ should be bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 West wasn't able to picture East's hand on this bidding. West made a judgment call. After a fit jump, West would have known 4♥ should be bid.West should have known that something should be bid. Isn't 3♥ obviously forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 West should have known that something should be bid. Isn't 3♥ obviously forcing? West obviously didn't trust his partner. Was right not to trust pard. Since East did bid this hand poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 6♥ looks playable but not cold. If you want to be in it, I don't think either your auction or a fit-jump is going to get you there.Actually, maybe that's not true. After Fluffy's auction, if it continues ...-3♥-3NT-4♦ West might be rather puzzled initially, but 4♦ can't be anything except a cue-bid for hearts. With prime values and no obvious loser, perhaps West should accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 It's an error to make a fit jump with AJTxxx imo. Partner will backtrack holding a singleton, yet it's a pretty good holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 I don't even think east was doing too badly until he bid 3♥ instead of 4 on that turn. But I would probably just keep it simple and bid 4♥ a round earlier. In fact I'm sure I would support hearts at my first bid, perhaps planning on bidding spades next. So on reconsideration I don't think east supported hearts strongly enough at any turn although he could have survived. I agree with the idea it sounds like he has Hx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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