MickyB Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) [hv=pc=n&s=sk9hkj4da98543c53&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1sp2c(5+%21D%205+hcp%20unbal)p2h(5!S-4!H%2C%2010-18)p]133|200|We open most 10-counts with a five-card major. Options now - 2S = preference, 5-10 or so2N = GF, partner will pattern out3C = 6+D INV+3S [forcing]4H or 4S How will you continue over partner's likely rebids, assuming you don't find an 8-card major fit? Alternatively, should I have treated it as a balanced invite, bidding 1NT then 2NT?[/hv] Edited January 20, 2013 by MickyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Congrats to you and your teammates for staying close in what seems to have been a tough match with tough hands. I dont think this is a gf hand so it looks like my only option is 3c given pard can often have 10-11 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Congrats to you and your teammates for staying close in what seems to have been a tough match with tough hands. I dont think this is a gf hand so it looks like my only option is 3c given pard can often have 10-11 here. Thanks :) Ok, partner accepts the invite with 3NT. Are you done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Thanks :) Ok, partner accepts the invite with 3NT. Are you done? oh ya...done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Can I not bid 2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yup ok, I'll add that to OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yup ok, I'll add that to OP Well I'm not bidding 2♠ if it is 5-10. Guess I'll relay and then guess a game. This transfer response is way overloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 This transfer response is way overloaded. In what positions are we behind standard methods and/or responding a forcing NT with 1S:1N, 2C:2D as ART? I can't see many. We don't respond 2C on 5D4C 8-11 because 1NT allows us to find a fit in either minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I would just go 1N then 2N. I view my hand as invitational, and from what I can tell if I start with 2C I have to invite in diamonds which I think is a worse description than inviting in NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 In what positions are we behind standard methods and/or responding a forcing NT with 1S:1N, 2C:2D as ART? I can't see many. We don't respond 2C on 5D4C 8-11 because 1NT allows us to find a fit in either minor. Never said you were behind standard! If you take out the crappy diamonds and preference hand, you can use 2♠ to show a hand like this. That leaves your non GF options as: long diamonds any range and 5-6 diamonds flexible hand, suit oriented circa 11 points. When I experimented with this, I had opener bidding 2♦ on minimums with no fit, so 2♥/♠ would show at least a good 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I started off with 1S:2C, 2H showing extras, but that left some hands very poorly catered to. After 1S:1N, 2C [1N forcing, 2C = clubs/weak NT/some 16-18 hands], 1354 5-7 would play 2S on the 5-1 fit, and 1453 would be playing in either 2S on a 5-1 or 3C on a 4-3. Obviously 6D4H with responder would land up a level higher too, and we'd basically lose the option to respond 2C with 5-5 in the reds when appropriate [iMPs - minimum responding hand or poor hearts]. I don't think we as badly placed after 1S:2C, 2H as you make out so I think it's worth it. I'm not sure I like responding 1NT really. 2N [as opposed to 3D or 3N] when partner has 11-12 flat sounds horrible, especially from my side, and I'm not sure 1S:1N, 2H:2N is great either. 2N GF gets 3C [5413/5404] from partner, what are your thoughts on the best game now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 It seems my 3c over pards 2h has placed 3nt from pards side of the table and I will pass. Hopefully: AQxxx...AQxx..void....Axxx? but even this has chances: AQxxx..AQxx..void....QTxx---------------------------------- I liked the suggested auction of: 1s=1nt2h=2ntetc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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