BunnyGo Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 At least it seems clear that it is still "unsettled". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Hate double with 3 small and nothing else going for the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I would pass.My partner (who is only very slightly older than me) would double.So I've had experience of results playing both styles, and I would say it's "inconclusive" p.s. I agree totally with JLOGIC about the importance of vulnerability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's the very worst hand I can imagine myself doubling on (even NV -- perhaps I need to worry more about the vulnerability here than I currently do) but I do double on this now. If you asked me any time between when I learned to play bridge and about a year and a half ago I'd have passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 seems to me doubling is a ticket to playing in a poor 4-3 fit at the 3-level vul. If partner can come in i will be happy to support him. otherwise, i'll take defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 IMO X = 10, P = 9The Blue team pioneered doubles on this kind of hand. Risky but may be the lesser risk if opponents regularly open a short minor. Partner should be aware that you may act on this kind of hand. Emboldened by the Italian experience, some British experts virtually ignore their opponents' 1♣ openers, just making their normal opening bid (but doubling with clubs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filostine Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 it is obviously a pass on the first round ;if the bidding stays low enough with opps having a suit fit then double later in the auction for takeout.The only time you should double on the 1st round is if you are in a an ACBL robot tournament when it is 100% sure that your partner will have a fit with you ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 The only time you should double on the 1st round is if you are in a an ACBL robot tournament when it is 100% sure that your partner will have a fit with you ...... Ah yes, the best fit tournaments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q0987 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think that a nt bid over a opening bid would take care of problems like this. It would be like the the veritable nt that are in use today. If one had a good hand like 15 to 17 then they could double first and then bid nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I'm with the passers, guess that makes me traditional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasioc Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Everything that JLOGIC posted floats around somewhere in my head when I pick up one of these hands, having had the "don't double in on so much ****" talk directed at me many times. In practice I very rarely actually pass these hands, although at these conditions I would not double with a penny less. I don't pretend to be an expert on bidding theory but doubling in first on 15-18 and bidding 1NT with this sounds somewhat sub-optimal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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