Vampyr Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hi. I am interested in hearing ideas about defending an opening 1♣ bid that is 10-17, clubs or diamonds or a weak NT. More specifically: 1. What is the optimum defense? 2. What defense would you agree on if you have just learnt about the bid before a 2-board session (so you can't really discuss eg transfers)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 I would say:Everything naturalDbl: Takeout, major oriented1NT: 15-17 / 16-182♣: Natural2♦: Both majors, 55+2M: WJO I know strong players who play:Dbl: I would have opened 1♣Everything else: pretty much like their opening bids Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 We just treat it as natural, which means we play ... I would say:Everything naturalDbl: Takeout, major oriented1NT: 15-17 / 16-182♣: Natural2♦: Both majors, 55+2M: WJOIt is optimal in the sense that we know the defence well and need no further discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 1. What is the optimum defense?Nobody has proven any defense is optimal, nor that an optimum defense even exists. 2. What defense would you agree on if you have just learnt about the bid before a 2-board session (so you can't really discuss eg transfers)?With my f2f partners I'd play the same as Trinidad, which is basically the same as after short ♣. The only thing I'm wondering about is what to do with 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Nobody has proven any defense is optimal, nor that an optimum defense even exists. Well, yes, but I was thinking that some people may have strong opinions on the subject and feel that a particular defense is clearly best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 The only thing I'm wondering about is what to do with 2NT. Preemptive in a minor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Without time to prepare I would simply want to play whatever we usually do over a "could be short" 1♣ opening. I cannot tell you what is optimal but one option is 1♦♥♠NT = normal overcalls2♣ = wjo in a major; or spades and a minor, strong2♦ = nat wjo2♥ = majors, weak2♠ = spades and a minor, weak2NT = hearts and a minor3♣ = majors, strong combined with second round club actions being natural. If you have strong nerves and a willingness to get the odd random result, you could play 2♦ as what is listed for 2♣ (majors or top/bottom/good) and a 2♣ overcall as weak with clubs or diamonds. Seems like it would be fun even if not very good B-) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix214 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Against something that is "weak NT" opening bid at the moment i play CRASH + MULTI LANDY, you can play any brown sticker if your opps open a minor which is 2+, or a weak nt for that matter, i suggest you take use of that. The cost for that is that you have to memorize a bit more then normal and you lose natural overcalls, but you have to live with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Their system is extremely vulnerable to competition. You can put them under extreme pressure by jacking up the bidding with well-defined medium strength hands. Do this and you have won the battle of the partscore. Luckily it's simple - play all one level actions as "normal" with the exception of double, which you should play as fairly loose in terms of shape requirements. The main change comes at the two level where you can play all bids as if they had opened 1NT. In my case that means Multi Landy (with 2M showing 4M and a decent longer minor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Their system is extremely vulnerable to competition. You can put them under extreme pressure by jacking up the bidding with well-defined medium strength hands. Do this and you have won the battle of the partscore. Luckily it's simple - play all one level actions as "normal" with the exception of double, which you should play as fairly loose in terms of shape requirements. The main change comes at the two level where you can play all bids as if they had opened 1NT. In my case that means Multi Landy (with 2M showing 4M and a decent longer minor). Do you do that against a Precision 1♦ too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I assume their 1♣ is forcing? If so, you could try something along the lines of: P = 0-7 that can't preempt or 17+X = 8-16 points, 4+ clubs, canape1x = 8-16 points, 4+, canape1N = 13-16 balanced2x = 8-12 points, 6+2N = bad 3 level preempt in any suit3x = good quality preempt3N = bad 4 level preempt in any suit4x = good quality preempt so overcalling in a suit and rebidding it shows 6+ and 13-16 points, passing and bidding a suit is natural and shows 17+ points, and passing and doubling later is for penalties.Might not be best, but it looks kind of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Do you do that against a Precision 1♦ too? No, but I would consider it if I knew it included all their minor suit hands. I get some of my minor-suit overcalls back with my 1NT (natural or bad 2♣ overcall) gadget. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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