gordontd Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Every 5-year-old who has played CLUE knows about lead pipes :-)You call it CLUE? Presumably you mean CLUEDO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 You call it CLUE? Presumably you mean CLUEDO?It's been CLUE in the USA for more than 40 years, so y'all can call it whatever you want in UK, but don't be arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to conform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 don't be arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to conform.Well, it's called CLUEDO in Germany. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well, it's called CLUEDO in Germany. :Pand perhaps the rest of the world... Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 don't be arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to conform.I thought, in the context of this thread, that I didn't need a smiley for my intention to be clear. Obviously not. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's been CLUE in the USA for more than 40 years, so y'all can call it whatever you want in UK, but don't be arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to conform. I assume it is called "Clue" in the US because Americans lack the English ability to pronounce words of 2 or more syllables. :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I assume it is called "Clue" in the US because Americans lack the English ability to pronounce words of 2 or more syllables. :lol:Let's see if the smiley saves you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I assume it is called "Clue" in the US because Americans lack the English ability to pronounce words of 2 or more syllables. :lol:Reminds me of the old joke (XXXX is pronounced 4X and is/was one of their most common brands) "Why do Australians call lager XXXX" - because they can't spell beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I assume it is called "Clue" in the US because Americans lack the English ability to pronounce words of 2 or more syllables. :lol: Well, also "Ludo" was known by the brand name "Parcheesi", so the allusion to the former would have been lost on the Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Do kids still play CLUE? And Parcheesi? These were two of my favorite childhood games, back in the 1940s. Checking with the Wik, I see CLUE hit in 1949. I was ten. Sounds right. I hadn't realized either were imports, or knock-offs, from other countries. Please don't tell me Uncle Wiggly was not homegrown. I learned to read by following the adventures of the Rabbit Gentleman as I picked up cards that determined his fate. I greatly enjoyed "Taxi; The game with rules made to be broken". I'm not sure you can still get it, probably we no longer accept the idea of rules made to be broken. Better that the kids pick up a remote and blow somethinig up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Do kids still play CLUE? And Parcheesi? These were two of my favorite childhood games, back in the 1940s. Checking with the Wik, I see CLUE hit in 1949. I was ten. Sounds right. I hadn't realized either were imports, or knock-offs, from other countries. Please don't tell me Uncle Wiggly was not homegrown. I learned to read by following the adventures of the Rabbit Gentleman as I picked up cards that determined his fate. I greatly enjoyed "Taxi; The game with rules made to be broken". I'm not sure you can still get it, probably we no longer accept the idea of rules made to be broken. Better that the kids pick up a remote and blow somethinig up.We have Clue and Parcheesi and sometimes play them with our kids. Other times Acquire or Dominion, and several other games both modern and dated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 We have Clue and Parcheesi and sometimes play them with our kids. Other times Acquire or Dominion, and several other games both modern and dated. I'm very glad to hear this. When young, I had both the best board game collection and the best comic book collection in the immediate neighborhood. We also had one of the first televisions in the neighborhood, but the board games got far more use. I try not to get too nostalgic about this, but it does sometimes seem as if childhood was easier back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 CLUEDO in UK and NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Reminds me of the old joke (XXXX is pronounced 4X and is/was one of their most common brands) "Why do Australians call lager XXXX" - because they can't spell beer.American beer commercial: "Fosters! It's Australian for 'beer'"!Australian: "No. It's Australian for 'Budweiser'". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 But how curious that a (native English-speaking) person could have heard of lead or any other element without having attended school... no, it's probably more that teaching spelling and grammar is no longer considered important, because it takes time away from teaching things like "empowerment" and "self-actualisation". Perhaps time well spent? That's not true. There is a right way and there are wrong ways. Unfortunately, sources like newspapers, which non-native speakers would tend to trust, do not always use the right way.Sometimes there are right ways. Sometimes there are many ways which are not wrong. The right way evolves, what was correct 100 years ago may not be considered correct today. Who is really to say that we are right today instead of yesterday or tomorrow? I think the important part is that we communicate. I see "your" or "ur" used instead of "you're" quite often. I know it is wrong. But, I also understand what is being communicated. Perhaps when you see "lead" instead of "led" the author becomes less credible to you, meaning that she has hindered her ability to communicate her ideas to you. Or, maybe your perception (your hangup on grammar) has hindered your ability to understand the author's ideas or distracted you from focus on the author's ideas instead of the presentation. In short: why do we care about grammar as long as the idea, thought, or fact was communicated to us in an understandable way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Do kids still play CLUE?My kids (now teenagers) payed Clue, it is still on the shelf. I see it in many households. It may not be played as often as it was 50 years ago, but I suspect it is still common, if only because grandparents remember it fondly and give it to their grandchildren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Some years ago, Archie Goodwin came downstairs and entered his and his boss' office, to find his boss, Nero Wolfe, sitting in front of the fireplace, ripping pages out of his brand new Webster's International Unabridged Dictionary and throwing them in the fire. Archie asked his boss why he was doing this. Wolfe looked up, a scowl on his face, and said "'Contact' is not a verb!" B-) As for "why do we care?" the problem is that when some of us (I'm one) see 'your' or 'ur' in place of the correct "you're", we have to stop and think 'what the heck is going on here?' Sure we can usually figure it out from context, but it's disconcerting at least, not to mention a pain in the butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Some years ago, Archie Goodwin came downstairs and entered his and his boss' office, to find his boss, Nero Wolfe, sitting in front of the fireplace, ripping pages out of his brand new Webster's International Unabridged Dictionary and throwing them in the fire. Archie asked his boss why he was doing this. Wolfe looked up, a scowl on his face, and said "'Contact' is not a verb!" B-) As for "why do we care?" the problem is that when some of us (I'm one) see 'your' or 'ur' in place of the correct "you're", we have to stop and think 'what the heck is going on here?' Sure we can usually figure it out from context, but it's disconcerting at least, not to mention a pain in the butt. It was once disconcerting to see "contact" used as a verb. I still don't like to see "hopefully" used as a sentence adverb, but my children likely will never care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 In short: why do we care abut grammar as long as the idea, thought, or fact was communicated to us in an understandable way? This attitude makes me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 This attitude makes me sad. I agree. This is the comment of a very ignorant man. I am sure Tim was joking.As for the use of "ur". Ur was a city in Mesopotamia. I refuse to respond to anyone who uses this as a substitute for "your". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwar0123 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I agree. This is the comment of a very ignorant man. I am sure Tim was joking.As for the use of "ur". Ur was a city in Mesopotamia. I refuse to respond to anyone who uses this as a substitute for "your".Good to know, I tend not to like ur responses anyway :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffford76 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It was once disconcerting to see "contact" used as a verb. I still don't like to see "hopefully" used as a sentence adverb, but my children likely will never care. Hopefully they won't, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree. This is the comment of a very ignorant man. I am sure Tim was joking.As for the use of "ur". Ur was a city in Mesopotamia. I refuse to respond to anyone who uses this as a substitute for "your".Not joking. One of my pet peeves is the use of "very unique". Merriam-Webster now includes this 3rd definition of "unique": 3: unusual <a very unique ball-point pen> <we were fairly unique, the sixty of us, in that there wasn't one good mixer in the bunch — J. D. Salinger> But, it still bothers me. To get pig headed (as I have done in the past) about such things -- split infinitives; or "hopefully"; or prepositions at the end of sentences; or the use of "good" instead of "well" -- probably doesn't serve to better the ability of people to communicate. The use of "ur" might influence my opinion of those who use it, but it would not stop me from attempting to communicate. I am smart enough to understand "ur" and tolerant enough to make use of my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 "one of the only". :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 In short: why do we care about grammar as long as the idea, thought, or fact was communicated to us in an understandable way?I agree with you that nitpicking about small grammatical errors doesn't serve any purpose, other than the self-glorification of the person finding the error. However, anybody who wants to get a message across should not aim for that message to be "understandable". He should aim for "crystal clear". That is why it doesn't annoy me so much when I see "your" where there should be "you 're": it is a simple mistake and nobody is perfect. But when someone writes "ur", it is not a mistake. The person who writes it is perfectly aware that it is wrong and should know that it makes it harder to understand his message. For me there is a difference between knowingly doing something wrong and making an honest mistake. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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