Lord Molyb Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=st95hkqjt64da6ct8&n=sk7ha3dkj42cakqj2]133|200[/hv]North is the dealer in matchpoints, at unfavorable vulnerability.This was bid to 3NT in a bridge class, making 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 2NT-4♦4♥-4NT5♥-6♥6NT-P 6NT should be obvious because the bidding either indicates we have all the key cards but no heart Q so hearts can be set up for one loser, or we're off a key but hearts have a good chance to run. I think the S hand is good enough to just keycard opposite a big balanced hand, the 6 nearly solid hearts are huge. No offense, but I don't find this to be an interesting bridge hand, it's rather typical, sorry :P The only way I'd find this more interesting is if you wanted to make an argument that the N hand is too good for 2NT, which is fair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I never get north to bid hearts after 2nt opening, and land in the bad 6♥ by south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hi, In a Bridge Class - How many combined HCP do we have: 30We have a 8 card heart fit.Both hands are semi bal. So: Why do we not play in a major? 3NT makes +3, but you can go easily down, when 4H is +1. In a Bridge Class I would say, sometimesyou make 12 tricks, so dont worry aboutmissing the slam, but I would ask why theyplay NT. For that matter, if you discover the heartfit, you can bid 6H, played by North, it isnot a sure thing, but you can reach 6H. 2NT - 3D (1)3H - 4H (1)... - Pass / 6H (1) SI with hearts in the context of Transfer / Texas Transfer With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 you can bid 6H, played by North, it is not a sure thing, but you can reach 6H.It's pretty gosh-darned close to a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 2NT-4♦4♥-4NT5♥-6♥6NT-P 6NT should be obvious because the bidding either indicates we have all the key cards but no heart Q so hearts can be set up for one loser, or we're off a key but hearts have a good chance to run. I think the S hand is good enough to just keycard opposite a big balanced hand, the 6 nearly solid hearts are huge. No offense, but I don't find this to be an interesting bridge hand, it's rather typical, sorry :P The only way I'd find this more interesting is if you wanted to make an argument that the N hand is too good for 2NT, which is fair.This hand is not interesting if you play 3♦ and 4♦ as transfers, if you play more normal UK intermediate methods where only 3♦ is a transfer and 3♦ followed by 4N is quantitative, it's a lot more awkward. This hand would give me a problem and I'd be punting, but would have several choices about how I went about it (we play 2N-4♦ as 5-5 majors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 If you prefer to open 1♣ then I would bid this way 1♣ 1♥2♦ 3♥4NT some answer6NT The two important bids are 3♥, to force to game with a good suit, and 6NT since north knows he is off an ace it may be important to protect either king and he will have enough tricks in notrump. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 This hand is not interesting if you play 3♦ and 4♦ as transfers, if you play more normal UK intermediate methods where only 3♦ is a transfer and 3♦ followed by 4N is quantitative, it's a lot more awkward. This hand would give me a problem and I'd be punting, but would have several choices about how I went about it (we play 2N-4♦ as 5-5 majors). I have the same problem and I overcome this with 2-way bids, they don't come up very often and I am not really sure if they are very good. 2NT-3♦3NT-4m is a 2 way bid that shows either the minor or a fragment with 6+ hearts. Opener assumes natural and if he cuebids (4♠ here) there will be 6 keycard blackwood. I use GF transfers where 3NT denies 3♥. If you don't probably this idea doesn't work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I have the same problem and I overcome this with 2-way bids, they don't come up very often and I am not really sure if they are very good. 2NT-3♦3NT-4m is a 2 way bid that shows either the minor or a fragment with 6+ hearts. Opener assumes natural and if he cuebids (4♠ here) there will be 6 keycard blackwood. I use GF transfers where 3NT denies 3♥. If you don't probably this idea doesn't work for you.We don't use GF transfers hence are forced into 2N-3♦-3♥-4♠(KC)-5♦(2 without)-6♥-6N if we open 2N. 1♣-1♥-2N(GF unbal)-3♣(semi forced)-3♦(bigger than a reverse, this hand is not much above minimum for a 2245, not 3♥)-3♥(6 card suit)-4♠(keycard)-5♥(2+Q)-6N if we open 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 This hand is not interesting if you play 3♦ and 4♦ as transfers, if you play more normal UK intermediate methods where only 3♦ is a transfer and 3♦ followed by 4N is quantitative, it's a lot more awkward.Maybe awkward, but successful if you did that. As a side note, awkward would be responder Keycarding after Texas with XX and XXX in two side suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Er, sorry, there's a slight error in the north hand. Was the jack of diamonds, not the seven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 This hand is not interesting if you play 3♦ and 4♦ as transfers, if you play more normal UK intermediate methods where only 3♦ is a transfer and 3♦ followed by 4N is quantitative, it's a lot more awkward. This hand would give me a problem and I'd be punting, but would have several choices about how I went about it (we play 2N-4♦ as 5-5 majors). It's not particularly awkward.If you don't play a great deal of science, just look at your hand and observe it has a solid 6-card suit and an outside ace opposite a 2NT opening, and bid 6NTThis is more a matter of hand evaluation than detailed systemic understandings. p.s. the common UK intermediate method is that 3D is a transfer, then 4NT is keycard. Most people who play 4NT as quantitative on that auction have some way of making a slam try in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) What is a New suit-after-transfer :2NT - 3D! ( transfer )3H - 3S*/4C/4D = ?? ( ?? advance cue-bid showing 6+♥, slammish ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3S would not be needed to show 5h/4s since a Smolen sequence would show that - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Thus:2NT - 3D!3H - 4D ( Ctrl cue; denying both ♠ and ♣ Ctrls )4S! ( kickback -RKC ) - 5H ( 4th step = 2 + ♥ Q )6H Edited January 13, 2013 by TWO4BRIDGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Most people who play 4NT as quantitative on that auction have some way of making a slam try in hearts. You normally bid a fake new suit then blackwood, but it's embarrassing if you bid 4♦ and partner raises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I just thought of an alternative using a Meckwell sequence to show a good long Major: Since the Voidwood sequences begin with a Texas Transfer :2NT - 4D!4H - ??....... 4S = kickback-RKC.......4NT = Voidwood, excluding ♠....... 5C = Voidwood, excluding ♣....... 5D = Voidwood, excluding ♦ Meckwell came up with an alternative way of bidding 4S/4NT/5C/5D and 5H : 2NT - 3D! ( simple transfer )3H - ??....... 4S! = QuantitativeThe next 4 steps are "replies" as if 4S ( kickback-RKC ) had been "asked":.......4NT! = 0 or 3 ....... 5C! = 1 or 4....... 5D! = 2 - ♥Q....... 5H! = 2 + ♥Q Thus, after the 5H! "reply", Opener bids 6H Edited January 14, 2013 by TWO4BRIDGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 For me1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any... - 1NT = hearts or hearts and clubs, GF2♣ = relay... - 2♦ = hearts2♥ = relay... - 2♠ = 3 spades2NT = relay... - 3♥ = 36224♣ = puppet to 4♦... - 4♦4♠ = RKCB for hearts... - 5♥ = 2 or 5 with ♥Q6♥ For an Acol class, perhaps2♣ = 8 tricks in a suit or 22+ bal... - 2♥ = nat, positive2NT = 22-23 bal... - 3♥ = nat(3♠ = cue)(... - 4♦ = cue)4NT = RKCB... - 5♠ = 2 or 5 with ♥Q6NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I would open 1♣ and go on as lalldonn suggested without agreements. In my prefered system 1♣--2♥ (invitational 6 cards)2NT(asking suit quality)--and eventually end up in 6NT after N learns ♦ A and KQJxxx ♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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