Passes inverted minor forcing raise

[SimonFa]

http://tinyurl.com/a574tdf

 

Didn't bother me in this board but for future reference how forcing is forcing for inverted minor raises?

 

Thanks,

 

Simon

[Antrax]

I've seen that happen more than once. So often that I think it's the explanation that's wrong - I don't think GIB really plays IM by a passed hand.

[SimonFa]

I've seen that happen more than once. So often that I think it's the explanation that's wrong - I don't think GIB really plays IM by a passed hand.

 

I agree. I thinki it was jlall who said somewhere that a limited hand can't make a forcing bid.

[manudude03]

Gib plays IM is still on I think, it just isn't forcing. I don't know why West passed that though. Think it's just a meta-rule where anything that promises 10-11 is forcing to 2N.

[cloa513]

Quite funny for this hand as GIB easily makes 3NT.

[pigpenz]

I guess knowing East is a passed hand

would you bid 3NT with the west hand?

 

Probably with a GIB yes, since they tend to pass some good 12hcp hands

that humans have a tendency to open.

 

so maybe GIB is playing that since partner didnt show 11-12hcp by bidding 2NT

it downgrading its hand.

[Antrax]

Whatever the reason, it's very consistent, so it may as well be documented or it counts as CPU :)

[pigpenz]

by CPU to you mean card playing by underassumption

[Bbradley62]

I guess knowing East is a passed hand would you bid 3NT with the west hand?

I would have opened 1NT with the West hand, valuing it at 16 points. Having not opened 1NT, I think West's 16-value is worth a 3NT bid opposite 10-11HCP.

[steve2005]

yes can pass, as partner is passes hand but..

wouldn't 14 pts opposite 10-12 with least a 9 card fit all suits stopped, 3 T's 2 9's i wouldn't disagree with risking a 3N but at least give it a college try with 2N B-)

[pigpenz]

True