cf_John0 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 [hv=d=s&n=saqxxhaxxxdkqxxca&s=s10hxxdaj10xxxxcqxx]133|200|From Easybridge,it's hard to bid up to 6D in natural based system.How could you bid? Thank you![/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 [hv=d=s&n=saqxxhaxxxdkqxxca&s=s10hxxdaj10xxxxcqxx]133|200|From Easybridge,it's hard to bid up to 6D in natural based system.How could you bid? Thank you![/hv] The vulnerability would help, because preemptive bids reflect the vulnerability. But a reasonable auction would be.... 3♦ 6♦Pass Seems easy. 3D = I can take 6 tricks in diamonds (down three if doubled)... North looks at three aces, KQ of diamonds, and singleton club, and the spade queen. That is a possible SEVEN to EIGHT trikcks. So will think small slam, and maybe even grand slam. If spade hook is on, grand slam makes. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 [hv=d=s&n=saqxxhaxxxdkqxxca&s=s10hxxdaj10xxxxcqxx]133|200|From Easybridge,it's hard to bid up to 6D in natural based system.How could you bid? Thank you![/hv] 3♦ 6♦ because GS depends on S finesse and I would prefer to bid the small slam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daswallow Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 6d is enough - even that may fail if the 3d bidder does not have enough clubs to ruff in dummy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 If South opens 3♦, it's quite easy to go to 6 imo, just count some tricks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Now,what's the reasonable detail routine?3D-6D just indicates that you bid natural,do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Auken/Andersen might have some cute tools to possibly find 7, if it was there. Wouldn't we all preempt on: Kx, xx, Axxxxxx, xx? I play 4♣ as baby Gerber (tempted to 'mispell' Gerber :) ), but we haven't talked too much about continuations, but I can see: 3♦ - 4♣4♥-4♠4N - 5♥6♦ 1. 4♣ is key card gerber. 2. 4♥ shows one key card without the trump Queen; responses are 0 w/ Q, 1 w/o, 1 w/Q, 2 w/o, 2 w/Q. 3. 4♠ asks for 2nd round controls4. 4N shows spades5. 5♥ says bid 7 with 2nd round control ♥. Not playing this stuff (that comes up about 1x 2 years) I just blast 6♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 3D 6D looks like a sensible approach in a non practiced partnership. We play the following3D 4C = asks for KC and suit quality4H = good suit, 1KC 4S = any other K. Now 4N - 6D seems obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Please, 4♣ is key card BLACKWOOD there is no such thing as Keycard Gerber. I like 3♦ - 6♦ as well. Preempt from A to Z use control asking bids, that would get you to 7 on suitable hands like: KxxAJTxxxxxxx 3♦ - 4♥ (CAB)4NT (2nd round) - 5♠ (CAB)5♣ (2nd round) - 7♦ If you want to play 4♥ you have to bid 3♥ 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 My auctiion would be like Gerben's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I would bid the same as what Ben said: 3♦-6♦. When 6D was almost a sure thing, I don't need gadgets. Assuming pd has ♦A, even if South doesn't have enough ♣ for North to ruff, we can rely on ♠ finesse as the final resort unless pd is void in ♠. Finally, if South doesn't have DA, I can expect him to have ♠K, or ♠K on side. To expect South have ♠K asks to much, IMHO. Unless you are regular partners and can be sure what you do, complicated auctions may not get the info you want (even if South has SK), but lead to confusion and "short trump" contract instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 We go: 3♦ (weak) - 4♦ (RCKB with ♦)4♠ (1/4 KC) - 5♣ (Kings?)6♦ ( No, but single somewhere (5♦ would show 0/3, so one must be enough for 6)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 It's easy to bid 3d-6d. But... I wouldn't open 3d. It promisses two top honours.If my partner opens 3d I would bid 6d too. Because I don't have better methods :D xxxxxAJTxxxxQ 5d depends on spade finesse. It's not only about counting tricks. Not playing this stuff (that comes up about 1x 2 years) I just blast 6♦. 100% agree 3D 4C = asks for KC and suit quality4H = good suit, 1KC4S = any other K. Now 4N - 6D seems obvious3♦ (weak) - 4♦ (RCKB with ♦)4♠ (1/4 KC) - 5♣ (Kings?)6♦ ( No, but single somewhere (5♦ would show 0/3, so one must be enough for 6))Would you open 1st seat 3d without AKQ? I wouldn't. I don't need to ask for KC.Would you bid 7d if the answer was 1 king? Imagine spade king in a hand I posted. How do you bid this hand if you don't open 3d? p-1d?Do you bid splinters with passed hand?Do you bid 2d or 3d? (Playing inverted minor and not playing inv minor)Does anybody bid 5d? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 1♦ 5♦ 6♦ is not unreasonable if the opening is by North. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Opening without AKQ on a suit is possible when you have 8 cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted December 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 It's necessary to make some tools set. Mila85 has uncovered a crytic question.TY all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 :rolleyes: Maybe: 3D-P-6D? No point in asking for aces. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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