jillybean Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 For a Chinese perspective please. [hv=pc=n&s=sj853haqd942ct963&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp1hp1s2c3cd?]133|200[/hv] What does your partners 3♣ bid mean here and what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 For a Chinese perspective please. [hv=pc=n&s=sj853haqd942ct963&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp1hp1s2c3cd?]133|200[/hv] What does your partners 3♣ bid mean here and what now? Here is my translation,and thank jillybean very much.请从中国牌手视野理解的角度，谈谈您是怎样看待这副牌的下面问题的：1-同伴叫3♣的含义是什么？2-现在，您应该怎么处理呢？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 给大家做一个介绍：我们在bbo论坛上很荣幸地请到了加拿大国桥牌专家jillybean女士 ，以后大家如果看到在本论坛发帖后，请会英语的朋友们及时翻译成汉语，以方便大家的阅读学习。先行致谢。再次感谢jillybean大师。愿我们合作愉快。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqwbc Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) 我来试一试1-3♣ showed S fit with game force(3C表示S配合，逼局)2-My next bid is 4♠.(直接4S进局) Edited December 30, 2012 by lycier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caikq898 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 啥是中国牌手视野理解的角度？难道是说中国牌手全是没有几百上千页后续讨论笔记的一夜情桥牌PD？ ok，就按一夜情情理解1、3♣--老大，你的♣有废点吗？我可是有♠AKXX支持，♣单缺！2、3♥--如你所愿，我♣没有废点，虽然送不了你♦，不过我健康的♥还能满足你的进局探贯折腾！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 哈，好有意思的回复，说话风趣幽默，令人忍俊不止。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 这是一个扣叫，表示♥长强套，要求同伴在♣上有止张，就叫3nt。西部扣叫的范例。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caikq898 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 这是一个扣叫，表示♥长强套，要求同伴在♣上有止张，就叫3nt。西部扣叫的范例。表示♥长强套？少♥AQ也叫♥长强套？不带这么忽悠的。。。。。。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arter Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 总是要进局的意思。逼叫！若南家C有好止就叫NT.若没有就叫自己的套。或支持开叫套。总之。别PASS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The bidding continued.. [hv=pc=n&s=sj853haqd942ct963&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp1hp1s2c3cd3hp4hxppp]133|200[/hv] Partner's hand AQ96,K9843,AJT7,void and a costly mistake by a top pair. 4♠ made at the other table, 4♥-1 This sort of muddled bidding - where people think that the cue bid by opener shows support - is prevalent in parts of New Zealand and Australia - and is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The bidding continued.. [hv=pc=n&s=sj853haqd942ct963&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp1hp1s2c3cd3hp4hxppp]133|200[/hv] Partner's hand AQ96,K9843,AJT7,void and a costly mistake by a top pair. 4♠ made at the other table, 4♥-1 [hv=pc=n&s=sj853haqd942ct963&n=saq96hk9843dajt7c&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp1hp1s2c3cd3hp4hdppp]266|200[/hv]这是在一个顶级双人赛时犯的代价非常昂贵的错误，在其它桌4♠mk，4♥-1 专家评论说：这是一类乱糟糟的叫品，认为开叫人扣叫低花表示支持--这种方式在新西兰和澳大利亚部分地区相当流行---但这是错误的方式。 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caikq898 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 我的解读和实际牌面相当吻合，至于后面选择4♥，被加倍也不改4♠与我无关。 B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 真长见识——英语我虽然不懂，但我学到了东西。按我现在的水平在同伴扣叫３Ｃ后就是有没有胆量叫到４Ｓ的事了，其他想多了累！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqwbc Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sj853haqd942ct963&n=saq96hk9843dajt7c&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp1hp1s2c3cd3hp4hdppp]266|200[/hv]这是在一个顶级双人赛时犯的代价非常昂贵的错误，在其它桌4♠mk，4♥-1 专家评论说：这是一类乱糟糟的叫品，认为开叫人扣叫低花表示支持--这种方式在新西兰和澳大利亚部分地区相当流行---但这是错误的方式。 就我目前的水平来看这个3♣没有毛病，至少17价值点的牌值，同伴至少有一盖一实力，我的牌力逼叫到3♠的实力是够的，为什么不表示出来呢？ 希望看到专家介绍的方法。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 感谢加拿大国桥牌专家jillybean女士参与论坛的讨论。多谢指导。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yin970902 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 North 不打44配合的s去打53,52配合的h，显然是不合牌理的。现在来看3c 扣叫有无必要：应叫人pass 过应叫1s，开叫人s极配；除了4s外，有没有6s的可能呢？6s需要应叫人持有sK，hA，dQ，c上没有大牌这些要素，假设是♠Kxxxx♥Ax♦Qxx♣xxx6♠可以说是摊打，所以扣叫3c有必要；但是最后落在4h被x也不叫4s 就冤枉了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qf2000 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 如此弱牌，都不3s？ 3s不是本手？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaohung Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Nobody replys how to bid for the opener's hand so far. 4C would be my call to avoid the misunderstanding. This is one of the very few situation which cuebidding is not showing the support for partner's suit. The similar aluction like the following. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp1h1s2sp]133|100|how to treat the meaning of 2S?[/hv] Fit in ♥ or asking for stopper in ♠??Does the bidding system matter the meaning? (nature 1♦ vs precision 1♦) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qf2000 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 3♠：拍档我可能是1、弱牌；或者2、没有可扣叫的第一轮控制。如果开叫人在3♠之后4♦，则应叫人顺路4♥：拍档我确实弱，但有♥第一轮控制，显示给你。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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