How many points and how many spades?

[Bbradley62]

[hv=lin=pn|Bbradley62,~~M50160,~~M50158,~~M50159|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S67TJAHQKD6C348QA%2CS34QH246D4589QKAC%2CS28KH578TAD23TC2J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7CAggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%206%2B%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%203%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C4%2B%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20C%3B%2020-22%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7C4%2B%20S%3B%2011%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C4%2B%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20C%3B%2020-22%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7C]360|270[/hv]

[hv=lin=pn|devarajan,~~M50148,~~M50146,~~M50147|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S67TJAHQKD6C348QA%2CS34QH246D4589QKAC%2CS28KH578TAD23TC2J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7CAggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%207%2B%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%203%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7CFree%20jump%20raise%20--%204%2B%20S%3B%2011-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7C]360|270[/hv]

Two different auctions, both Norths misdescribed their hands in the same way. In my case, I would have expected GIB to simply bid 4♠, which should be weaker than 4♦. In the second case, what would 3♠ show over 3♦?

 

PS: Why should the second 3♦ bid show 7+ whereas the first only shows 6+?

[losercover]

[hv=lin=pn|Bbradley62,~~M50160,~~M50158,~~M50159|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S67TJAHQKD6C348QA%2CS34QH246D4589QKAC%2CS28KH578TAD23TC2J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7CAggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%206%2B%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%203%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C4%2B%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20C%3B%2020-22%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7C4%2B%20S%3B%2011%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C4%2B%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20C%3B%2020-22%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7C]360|270[/hv]

[hv=lin=pn|devarajan,~~M50148,~~M50146,~~M50147|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S67TJAHQKD6C348QA%2CS34QH246D4589QKAC%2CS28KH578TAD23TC2J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7CAggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%207%2B%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%203%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7CFree%20jump%20raise%20--%204%2B%20S%3B%2011-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7C]360|270[/hv]

Two different auctions, both Norths misdescribed their hands in the same way. In my case, I would have expected GIB to simply bid 4♠, which should be weaker than 4♦. In the second case, what would 3♠ show over 3♦?

 

PS: Why should the second 3♦ bid show 7+ whereas the first only shows 6+?

 

When you hovered over our 3s bid in the first auction, what did it say? I'm guessing the robot took it as a ridiculously big hand and with two tricks for you was looking for a slam. On the second hand 4s by the robot seems overly agressive.

[georgi]

Two different auctions, both Norths misdescribed their hands in the same way. In my case, I would have expected GIB to simply bid 4♠, which should be weaker than 4♦. In the second case, what would 3♠ show over 3♦?

 

PS: Why should the second 3♦ bid show 7+ whereas the first only shows 6+?

 

Since v25, current one, these calls carry 3♠-Free raise -- 3+ ♠; 7-10 total points ; 4♠-Free jump raise -- 3+ ♠; 11-12 total points

And since v25, GIB would bid only 3♠, not consider 4♠ with that hand.

 

 

3♦ corrected to 7+ in first case.