han Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 [hv=d=n&v=e&s=sj109xxhxdcak10xxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPPartner (north) opens 1D, and rebids 2D after your 1S. What next?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 pass, pd has 4 hearts. Opp might balance, then u can profit from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Its not a misfit atleast a minimum fit but could be alot more, because its mp i would pass and hope to bid 3c next, on imps i would bid 3c now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrows Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I would like to be able to bid 2♣ first, if it's not a game forcing. I don't like 2/1 GF. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 i bid 2c first also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 2♣ and 3♣ over 2♦. Non forcing in my methods. If pard throws a call that creates a force like 2♥ or 2N; I hope I can catch a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 i dont care WHAT my methods are. It is just common sense to bid clubs first. GF, NF, 1 round forcing, it doesnt matter at all. Nothing can substitute for common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I would had bid 1NT previous round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I would had bid 1NT previous round. partner opens 1D and u bid 1N with 7-5? are you serious???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I would have bid 2C initially, even if playing 2/1. over 2D will bid 2S, then 3S. This hand is a powerhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 would have bid 2♣ directly, but since i pussed out with 1♠ now i bid 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 can't bid 4C... it would be a splinter in support of diam... 3C is good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I intend to bid clubs at my first turn, and bid 2S at my second turn after 2D. If that doesn't get a spade raise, I intend to bid clubs and more clubs, and I'm not going to play this in 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I would had bid 1NT previous round. partner opens 1D and u bid 1N with 7-5? are you serious???? I am always serious :angry:, ok, I am sometimes serious is more accurate :D , but this is one o this times, 2♣ promises more strenght and leads to a high contract, and I just wanna play 3♣, wich is what I am gonna rebid if partner or opponents aren´t balanced (wich I kinda expect). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 [hv=d=n&v=e&s=sj109xxhxdcak10xxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPPartner (north) opens 1D, and rebids 2D after your 1S. What next?[/hv] It's an easy 2C no matter what system you play. I rate 1NT as very conservative, and I don't think it not serious:P I am strongly against 1S and 1S shouldn't really work for this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Zhu and Jlall say it eloquently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Pass to avoid hi-level misfit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I must bid spades first because after1d-2c2h-2s is 4th suit and I am unable to show my 5 spades. I think that 3c should be forcing. What about 2nt now? It's game invit in my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH2650 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I voted for an invitational action, but then ran a simulation and concluded that some game is more than 70% to make. 4 spades is the most likely (55%), followed by 5 clubs (50%), 3 notrump (30%), and 5 diamonds (3%). (Some hands make more than 1 game.) Since there are multiple possibilities that must be considered, it seems necessary to attempt to describe your hand to partner, starting with 2 clubs, and let him make the final decision. If you start with 1 spade, and hear a 2 diamond rebid, you are now less than 50% to make game, so some bailout might be appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I must bid spades first because after1d-2c2h-2s is 4th suit and I am unable to show my 5 spades. I think that 3c should be forcing. What about 2nt now? It's game invit in my system. Hmmmm.. Any system that forces you to respond 1♠ with this hand must be seriously flawed. The problem with 2♣ followed by 2♠ is not that 2♠ is "fourth suit" forcing, but that is shows a much better hand (reverse). For me, 2♣ and if partner rebids 2♦ I then bid 3♣. Even if partner bids 2♥ over 2♣ I rebid 3♣. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I must bid spades first because after1d-2c2h-2s is 4th suit and I am unable to show my 5 spades. I think that 3c should be forcing. What about 2nt now? It's game invit in my system. Hmmmm.. Any system that forces you to respond 1♠ with this hand must be seriously flawed. The problem with 2♣ followed by 2♠ is not that 2♠ is "fourth suit" forcing, but that is shows a much better hand (reverse). For me, 2♣ and if partner rebids 2♦ I then bid 3♣. Even if partner bids 2♥ over 2♣ I rebid 3♣. Ben Ben, so u plan to hide ur spade suit? Isnt it more important to look for major fit first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Your partner opens and you have a 4 losers hand and some want to pass ! Incredible ! This is a clear 2♣ bid and then go for ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Ben, so u plan to hide ur spade suit? Isnt it more important to look for major fit first? Do I plan to hide my spade suit? WEll if partner can only scrape together a 2♦ call, yes, I will hide my spade suit. If partner reverses to 2♥, I will pull it out, as now it is no longer a true reverse in my mind. Somehow, the feature of this hand is the excellent seven card suit. HEre the original poster wanted to bail without bidding that suit. And the poster I quoted was so worried about losing spades through a fourth suit forcing auction, he gave up entirely on clubs (even planning maybe a 2NT rebid with the 7-5 hand never showing clubs. I maybe odd, but I like bidding my long, strong suits before bidding my short weak ones, and I don't like rebidding NT naturally with 7-5 hands wihtout bidding my suits. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 After 1♦-2♣;2♥ you can bid 3♠ as natural... This is an immediate 2♣ bid imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Tricky hand. Bidding 1D 2C2D 3C is probably the best, but, having bid 1S initially, I would be careful now. The hand is not as hot as at seems, and I would bid it like: 1D 1S2D 2S One could try a 3C bid, hoping to induce pard into a delayed spade raise, but if that fails there's no telling where we'll end and therefore a simple 2S is perhaps best. There is no bid to show this hand, nor is there any way to extract more info from pard without getting too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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