Meaning for an immediate jump que bid?

[silvr bull]

How do you guys and gals interpret an immediate jump que bid? For example, your RHO opens 1♥ and you jump to 3♥? What message does that give to partner? How about if you jump to 3♥ in the reopening seat after LHO opens 1♥ and then pass pass to you? Is the meaning the same if RHO opens a weak two bid and you jump to 4 of that suit?

 

The hand below spurred this question. Playing with a good partner against random BBO opponents, I picked up a solid 8 card ♦ suit. It would have been great if I could have jumped to 3♥ to tell partner to bid 3NT with a ♥ stopper, but I did not have that agreement. The best I could do was a jump to 4♦. :(

 

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[Vampyr]

It would have been great if I could have jumped to 3♥ to tell partner to bid 3NT with a ♥ stopper, but I did not have that agreement.

 

What, according to your agreements was 3♥?

 

And is a que bid a sort of wonder bid to which partner's reaction is "Que?"

[ggwhiz]

No, the best you could do was jump to 3♥. 4♦ can come later depending on developments.

[chasetb]

For some reason, I can't find it at the moment, but this discussion has come up before. Essentially, the US people (JLall being the main one)assigned a different meaning to 3♥ here; the Europeans said it was a stopper ask (I think PaulG being one).

[manudude03]

3H should be stopper ask. I didn't think there was ambiguity there, the main argument about the cuebid was after a 2H opener IIRC. With the OP hand, if you decide you can't risk 3H, then bid 2D instead (or 5D if you feel you must jump), 4D is preemptive, typical hand being a lot closer to xx x KQJTxxxx xx.

[awm]

If their bid is always 4+ in the suit, stopper ask. If their bid could be shorter, natural weakish.

[Cyberyeti]

What we play:

 

If a minor is opened, the jump cue is both majors, 2N is lowest 2 unbid, simple cue is the other combination.

 

If a major is opened, it's the stop ask initially, but can have been a monster 2-suiter if 3N is removed. Can get slightly murky if partner doesn't have the stop and you bid again.

[P_Marlowe]

Michaels with frakier shape

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[TWO4BRIDGE]

What we play:

 

If a minor is opened, the jump cue is both majors, 2N is lowest 2 unbid, simple cue is the other combination.

In other words:

1m - 3m! = 2 highest unbid ( the majors )

1m - 2NT! = 2 lowest unbid

1m - 2m! = highest and lowest unbid

[aguahombre]

Using (1X)-3X to ask for a stop with a long suit has landed us in 3N twice, in about 35 years (15 years of play). Once, it was successful because the opps were asleep. The other time, after they finished running 5 tricks in a side suit, they led thru partner's stopper for some more tricks.

 

Other times it has been used (maybe 3) have resulted in suit play at various levels with random results.

[SteveMoe]

Interesting variations from the previous posters.

I play 1m-3m as preemptive in m, and 1M-3M as stopper ask.

Once had the auction (1♣)-3♣-(4♣) all pass.

Opener has 2, partner had 7 and responder was void - go figure.

Ugly better describes their mood more than the result...

(I thought the deck had at least 18♣s).

[lycier]

How do you guys and gals interpret an immediate jump que bid? For example, your RHO opens 1♥ and you jump to 3♥? What message does that give to partner? How about if you jump to 3♥ in the reopening seat after LHO opens 1♥ and then pass pass to you? Is the meaning the same if RHO opens a weak two bid and you jump to 4 of that suit?

 

The hand below spurred this question. Playing with a good partner against random BBO opponents, I picked up a solid 8 card ♦ suit. It would have been great if I could have jumped to 3♥ to tell partner to bid 3NT with a ♥ stopper, but I did not have that agreement. The best I could do was a jump to 4♦. :(

 

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Do you really think your partner is a good player?if yes, you would trust your partner.For this hand,what else can you do? unless 3H - a jump cuebid overcall.

　　Suppose you double or overcall 2D, and the next player bids a modest 2H, partner bids 2S or 3C and opener bids 3H - what now? Does partner have a H stop?

　　The best method is jump cuebid overcal 3H to describe this hand perfectly at your first bid .we know a jump cuebid shows a strong hand with a long totally solid minor with a stopper in both of the unbid suits ,and it asks partner to bid 3NT with a stopper in the suit opened. With no stopper advancer would normally bid 4c or 5c (pass or correct) to play in your suit.

 

 

[Vampyr]

we know a jump cuebid shows a strong hand with a long totally solid minor with a stopper in both of the unbid suits ,and it asks partner to bid 3NT with a stopper in the suit opened.

 

Well, we don't "know" this, but we also don't know what the OP's agreement for 3♥ was. In the absence of another agreement, it is probably best to try it and hope that partner will be on the same wavelength.

[Gerben42]

I play (1m) 3m as invitational with 5 - 5 majors, (1M) 3M as asking for stopper.

[pigpenz]

I was always taught from seventies that it was sort of a western que bid asking partner to bid 3NT with a stopper

[JLOGIC]

For some reason, I can't find it at the moment, but this discussion has come up before. Essentially, the US people (JLall being the main one)assigned a different meaning to 3♥ here; the Europeans said it was a stopper ask (I think PaulG being one).

 

I would guess almost everyone plays 1M-3M as stopper ask, there was a discussion recently about 1m-3m though.

[paulg]

I play 1M-3M as stopper ask, but 1m-3m is Ghestem (1♣-3♣ is spades and diamonds, 1♦-3♦ is very strong spades and clubs).

[Zelandakh]

Over 1m, I like to play 3m as a form of Super-Michaels, showing a good hand with both majors. This is in conjunction with 2♥ being weak with no majors rather than simple Michaels. If playing a more traditional structure then it should probably be natural by default, at least against a 5 card major system. Gerben's majors with intermediate strength idea sounds very good.

 

Over 1M, I have always played 3M as a stopper ask, typically with a long running minor.