lycier Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 1.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 2. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1hp4sp]133|100[/hv] 3. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1hp2cp2hp4sp]133|100[/hv] 4.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp1sp2sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 5.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sp2np3sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 这些叫品是什么意思? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 俺抛砖引玉,试着解答一下,望指正 :P :1、排除♣的关键张问叫2、排除♠的关键张问叫3、反冲问叫4、对同伴开叫花色♣有支持的满贯邀请5、要求同伴有♣控制时叫进满贯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 思路欠妥,请再好好盘算盘算吧http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyp163 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Delete...晕哦,回复不见了,打字不容易, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 大家都在看画,不回复,何时学会知识?不掌握必要的基础知识,当打TM比赛时,动不动就是不理解和误会,可否有很大意义?或者委屈求全地叫牌等等,实在无趣。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 我也试试。请指正。1、想打,除了草花定约,我的牌没有什么用途。2、想打,除了黑桃定约,我的牌没有什么用途。3、斯普林特。满贯试探。4、排除草花的关键张问叫。5、寻求草花帮助的满贯试探。 很不喜欢第1、第2两个进程,我认为一定可以找到其他进程达到同样的目的。 再说两句题外话,叫牌除了搭档之间有明确的约定之外,最好不要因为你的一时心血来潮而将搭档陷入不知所措的尴尬境地。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 在我看来全部是缺门关键张问叫 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 1.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 2. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1hp4sp]133|100[/hv] 3. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1hp2cp2hp4sp]133|100[/hv] 4.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp1sp2sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 5.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sp2np3sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 这些叫品是什么意思? 1-自然叫品2-自然叫品3-排除问叫,♥为将,♠是排除花色4-排除问叫,♠为将,♣是排除花色5-排除问叫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 我的答案虽好,但绝不是唯一,请朋友思考。还有答案!但涉及你的知识面的运用和推理! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 1 2 的自然叫品,我不太赞同,这个叫品让PD会想半天!比赛太费精力! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 1 2 的自然叫品,我不太赞同,这个叫品让PD会想半天!比赛太费精力! 海阔: 1-第一第二没问题,只是这类牌人们抓道德机会不多而已,但也正如你所言,太费精力。我就抓过这样的牌面:[hv=pc=n&s=skj975432h6dq6c75&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp4sp]133|200[/hv] 这时候只有南家心里最最明白不过了,赶紧4♠堵住opp的嘴,opp一般低花必有局甚至满贯。而事实上正如所料,敌方有满贯跟着,单4♠封锁住了空间,谁敢豪言别的定约在哪呢? 2-第三题可有说道:如果他们打反冲问叫,那么4♠=RKCB,而4nt=♠排除性问叫。 不知道您是否同意? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 第5副 应叫2NT之后用5C排除?费解,呵呵 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 第5副 应叫2NT之后用5C排除?费解,呵呵 非常理解你的"费解"二字,说明你是真的用心了!好! 2nt在对中级牌手而言,要求均型;而高级约定就不一定了,允许非均型,就是说再有极好配合和额外牌力基础上,允许有单缺牌型http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif。 Merry Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 完全同意第三题用反冲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 1.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 2. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1hp4sp]133|100[/hv] 3. [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1hp2cp2hp4sp]133|100[/hv] 4.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp1sp2sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 5.[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sp2np3sp5cp]133|100[/hv] 这些叫品是什么意思? 我所喜爱的方式是:高花打反冲问叫,低花用低花木。所以:1-自然叫品2-自然叫品3-4♠=♥为将的反冲问叫;如果叫的不是4♠而是4nt=排除问叫,♥为将,♠是排除花色4-排除问叫,♠为将,♣是排除花色5-排除问叫 以上仅为个人浅见,仅供参考。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000ffj Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 这几题确实很难,我一个都答不上来,要是实战遇到同伴这样叫,我只能确定第5题一定应该是排除性关键张问叫,因为明显同伴的2nt确立将牌了,同伴3s后更进一步确定黑桃为将,如果应叫人担心草花,他完全可以3nt等待。第一题和第二题确实很难想象,因为开叫人的牌实力宽广,应叫人似乎不太应该封局,也许大满贯丢了。第三题如果约定用反冲问叫,那一定是的了。第四题更难想象了。总之,这几题不太合乎常规,确实非常有使用价值,我觉得大家要统一认识,我们都这样约定使用。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 如果说:“这几题不太合乎常规”,我真的真的不同意不理解了,其实这些都是任何想要建立一个搭档间的定约体系之不可或缺的元素啊。只是一般人少有罢了。是必须学习掌握的知识。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 老师好:晚来了错过参与讨论说出自己观点的时机,只有学习的份了,谢谢老师!不过:例1.我想同伴开叫,自己拿着长草花套为什么不想去打3NT而是叫一个阻击性的5C?例4.同伴开叫1C,订约定在S,应叫人再叫5C排除问叫,假定开叫1C持牌低限AX或KX这个空门有意义吗?例5.听过您讲的哈代加叫2NT后再叫3S表明D单张,现在应叫人又叫出5C空门排除问叫,哪应叫人又在担心什么地方的止张哪?应叫2NT杰克贝的牌力又在那? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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