CSGibson Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sj74haqt6daq72c84&n=saq2hkj98d5cajt65&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1cp1hp3hp4dp4s(keycard)p5h(2%20with%20Q)p5s(K%20ask)p6h(No%20kings)ppp&p=c9cac3c4c5c7c8c2s4s3sqskh2h6h3h8c6cqhas9]640|460[/hv] Feel free to comment on the bidding and play to this point, especially the play if you would have done something different (against relatively unknown opponents - you know that LHO is goodish, but don't know righty at all). What do you do from here (and from here, I mean where the play stops)? Opponents play upside-down count and attitude, top of nothing leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Cross in hearts. If hearts break then ruff out the last ♣, ♦A, ruff a ♦ and claim. If not then I guess we need a spade to stand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 The biggest risk seems to be that West has 3♠=4♥=4♦=2♣. Play a spade now to the table. If this gets ruffed, tough luck. Overtaking a heart now wins if West has 2♠=3♥=6♦=2♣ but is less likely. Also East might have overcalled 1♠ with ♠Kxxxx,♥xx,♦xx,♣KQxx. The bidding and play so far is okay. The contract stands no chance if East goes in at trick 2. Leading the 9 from 98x and from 9x is dangerous.I consider 3♥ a slight underbid by my standards (the North hand is worth more than its HCP suggest). I prefer the slight overbid of 4♦, but the result of this would be the same here. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Also East might have overcalled 1♠ with ♠Kxxxx,♥xx,♦xx,♣KQxx. Yes. And his spades would be KT865 plus his diamond "x" can be an honour. Spade now. Oh, and I may have gone off at trick one depending on who was West. Not finessing makes us hugely exploitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I consider 3♥ a slight underbid by my standards (the North hand is worth more than its HCP suggest). Rainer Herrmann This is in context of a weak NT, where 2♥ would have shown extras - 3♥ is almost forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Keycard is just a massive bid then and IMO a bad one. Partner having no club or spade control is not good for northe hand. Definitely play a spade here. If you were west and you had 9x of clubs and 9x of spades which would you lead? I think a spade would be obvious, it's the unbidden suit. Therefore I will not play west for 9x 9x in the blacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iviehoff Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Definitely play a spade here. If you were west and you had 9x of clubs and 9x of spades which would you lead? I think a spade would be obvious, it's the unbidden suit. Therefore I will not play west for 9x 9x in the blacksI don't understand what advantage you gain by playing a spade now in comparison to Zelandakh's line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think we went wrong at trick 3. Spade to the ace, club ruff, heart to dummy, club ruff, heart to dummy, draw trumps, cash club, spade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't understand what advantage you gain by playing a spade now in comparison to Zelandakh's line. It picks up 4-1 trumps while not letting LHO pitch another spade on our 2nd club ruff. Otherwise agree with Justin, N did fine with their bidding 3♥ but I would bid 4♥ over 4♦, ESPECIALLY if we're cueing 1st and 2nd round controls. It's not as if 4♥ bars partner. Also would be nice to know if there were some sort of serious/frivolous going on here. Even without that N is overboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think we went wrong at trick 3. Spade to the ace, club ruff, heart to dummy, club ruff, heart to dummy, draw trumps, cash club, spade.I think you got it ... even with a 4-1 ♥-split as long as West has 2 cds ♣. If one counts winners after winning the first 2 ♣ tricks ( w/A & 8 ) : 2s ( after giving up a ♠ ) , 4h ( in dummy ), 1d , 2 ♣-ruffs ( ruffing high in hand ), 3c = 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 It picks up 4-1 trumps while not letting LHO pitch another spade on our 2nd club ruff. Otherwise agree with Justin, N did fine with their bidding 3♥ but I would bid 4♥ over 4♦, ESPECIALLY if we're cueing 1st and 2nd round controls. It's not as if 4♥ bars partner. Also would be nice to know if there were some sort of serious/frivolous going on here. Even without that N is overboard. 3N would have been a non-serious slam try. Agreements are to cue controls, except that we don't cue shortness in partner's primary suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Well now I think S showed a better hand than he had then with 4♦ (extra A over game accept, but xx in partner's first bid suit) and N wasn't crazy to try for slam after a serious bid, though he should still be wary about what partner has to bypass both black suit control bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I think we went wrong at trick 3. Spade to the ace, club ruff, heart to dummy, club ruff, heart to dummy, draw trumps, cash club, spade.On second thoughts, a better sequence is heart to dummy, club ruff, spade to the ace, etc. That's risk-free, because LHO wouldn't lead a doubleton cub when holding a singleton spade. It helps if trumps happen to be 5-0, in which case we will need the spade finesse, amongst other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Andy, it must have been matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Andy, it must have been matchpoints. Nope, I just screwed up the play - I went in thinking I needed the spade finesse after the club lead, and didn't regroup after the 8 of clubs held. Incidentally, LHO was 2=3=6=2, and chose to lead a club because his partner had two opportunities to double for a spade lead and failed to do so either time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Not the first time my read was off. This one would have been easier had I been at the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 On the bidding front, you can also define a 3♦ bid here as a splimit, showing just this hand which may be just shy of a 4!D bid but still gets the splinter in. It doesn't come up that often but Rex and I have found it useful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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