pclayton Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=skxhakqxdaqxxxcax]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Club game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 2C then 2N looks good. What is the 2N opening range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 2C then 2N looks good. What is the 2N opening range? Actually 2N opening shows the minors. 2♦ is modified mexi, showing 20-21 balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 My answer is not there. I open 2♦ multi, then rebid cheapest notrump to show 23-24. I have upgraded this hand to 23. Not playing this, I open 2♣ and the then rebid 2NT showing 22-24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 agree, 2c then 2nt. showing 22-24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 i voted 2c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 agree, 2c then 2nt. showing 22-24. ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I'd open 1♦, planning to reverse into Hearts and then rebid in NTDon't expect this to be popular, however, I HATE opening 2♣ with 2 suited hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 1D, agree with Richard. It's definitely good enough for 2C, but after 2C-2D-3D, how do you find a heart fit? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 not so popular Richard, but you already got 2 supporters, count on me for 1♦ opening, what can go wrong after all? :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Partner can pass 1D :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Partner can pass 1D :) True, however, I'm not expecting the hand to get passed out. If it does, I need to pay out. As I noted earlier, shwoing a two suited hand after a 2♣ opening is uglyShowing hand with rpimary Diamonds makes life especially ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 If its passed out I probably make :), but I probably go down on 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 imo the biggest drawback of opening 1D is that you will never be able to show your strength. Opening 2C and rebidding 2NT shows what you have... a balanced hand with 22-24 HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I open 1D, mostly because I have all primary honors and the texture suggest this is a SUIT oriented hand, and not really a NT oriented hand, with all thoose AKs + supported Qs and no slow tricks in terms of intermediates. Open 2C and 2NT rebid, and we'll lose many laydown ♦ slams (or many 5D games when 3N goes down). Open 1D and we'll lose only when pard passes, but as someone said, in that case we are likely not to have 3NT. With the right gadgets (Ingberman or Multi-reverse), opener may be able to describe the strength of the hand even without resorting to the 2C opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I opened this 1♦ and got to a painless 6N opposite xx, x, KJ98, KQJTxx when pard upgraded this to a 2/1. I think the 2♣ openers have it wrong. Its going to be difficult if not impossible to get your suits in quickly enough and let pard be captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 2C then 2N. Looks like it doesnt matter what we do on the actual hand hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Bidding whatever is your 22 balanced. 2C then 2N is common. The hand is too balanced to open 1D. Too easily passed out when game is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: MP ♠ Kx ♥ AKQx ♦ AQxxx ♣ Ax Club game. I have a gadget here so I open 2C because we can show our 4 card hearts first then longer diamonds over a positive response of 2D. Otherwise, I rate it as close to open 1D or 2C. 1D is best for slam bidding and some game bidding area, you may sometimes reach otherwise unbiddable slams if you open 1D and you may sometimes find excellent 5D or 4H when 3NT goes down, but you also may be passed out by partner, also you have a hard time to rebid if partner bids 1H. 2C then 2NT is best for gamebidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 2NT for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 2♣, but the continuation and evaluation depend on system.If I play Rosenkranz's rebids (my preference), I rebid 3♥ to show five diamonds and four hearts.Otherwise, I rebid my hand as a 24 NT if that overbid doesn't send me immediately to 3N, but as a 23 NT if only that underbid allows me to utter 2N at some time, either directly or after a Kokish 2♥.(Not that I am particularly eager to play 3N opposite a pair of jacks, but my hand is good for slam.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 i agree with junyi. 2C then 2N is best for gamebidding, 1D is best for slam bidding. Game bidding is where the heart of the game is, everything else is secondary (imo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 2♣ and then 2NT showing 22-23, bal :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 It is a very specific hand that cannot respond to 1♦ that makes game here. The hand looks like the ♦K and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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