lycier Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 The auction went 1D P 2C (2S) dbl 2C was 2/1 GF. Pd said double showed a good hand. If I wanted to double spades I should pass and let him double cooperatively. I intended penalty and thought this was standard. What's your understanding? [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp2c2sdp]133|100[/hv] 本题面转译自BBO论坛专家牌手版区。2♣是2盖1逼局应叫，开叫人的加倍表示一手好牌。如果开叫人想要加倍惩罚2♠，应该pass，然后等待同伴的合作性加倍。可我倾向于这是惩罚性加倍，觉得这才是标准方式。您是如何理解的？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paizhang Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 我认为这个加倍惩罚更容易理解 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyxShen Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 ZDS老师不是说了吗？如果PASS是逼叫的，加倍就是惩罚。非常清楚。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 既然有2/1的牌力，就要权衡进局还是防守(看局况是双无局)，如果不能打下3个，宁愿自己叫进局，当然，这个需要判断。这个加倍，我认为是惩罚性的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzdhy668 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 madongjun Group: Full Members Posts: 435 Joined: 2012-August-05 Posted Today, 05:13 既然有2/1的牌力，就要权衡进局还是防守(看局况是双无局)，如果不能打下3个，宁愿自己叫进局，当然，这个需要判断。这个加倍，我认为是惩罚性的。 同意东方的看法。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21574770 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 加倍惩罚无局方的2Ｓ通常没多大油水，设计成技术性有更多的适用性，对于无局对有局，我倾向于直接位置加倍惩罚。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 我看了一下专家级论坛的讨论，大致情况是：1-较多的高手包括世界大师认为这是惩罚性的。但世界大师不同意开叫人的♠结构会是J9xx，应该更好更强的结构。2-较少专家认为负加倍，甚至包括是对♣有3张的支持性加倍。3-也有人举例认为丢贯的可能。4-也有人举出危险的加倍进程。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 刚才在百度搜索引擎内输入“桥牌谚语”时，第一条就指向了ＢＢＯ论坛。大家有空去华语世界“桥牌谚语”的帖子去接龙啊！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 ZDS老师不是说了吗？如果PASS是逼叫的，加倍就是惩罚。非常清楚。我对这句话感兴趣！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyp163 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 我理解： 1，开叫人听到2S后，认为牌型存在问题，无论是已方有将还是无将的成局定约都有风险。 2.开叫人的牌力是开叫的低限，无额外牌力。否则肯定视2S为无物，继续自己的叫牌，甚至PASS，等PD描述再定。 应该是这种情况的惩罚加倍，也许仅仅宕二而已.但总比自己成局宕一的结果好多了。 好多时候，我们自己对成局不确定，愿意处罚OPP，应该就是这时候吧。 另外，PD如果是好的牌型及比2/1应叫更高的牌力，不应该PASS这个加倍. 我思考的结果。:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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