daveharty Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sha9876dk3cqj9432&w=saj654hq4daj9764c&n=skqt9873hj2d8ck86&e=s2hkt53dqt52cat75&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=3sppp]399|300[/hv] +200 for defending 3♠ undoubled was a pretty common result, but obviously EW could have done better. Any blame, or just one of those things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 what else do you suggest? I mean, seriously, how can either EW do anything? Imo, anyone who suggests that either should do anything is a pure result merchant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveharty Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I agree, but there was a dissenting opinion, hence the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Did someone really suggest that East should double? IMO, he is at least a king short of a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 What can East or West do legitimately?The only way to get to a better place would be for South to panic and bid a round suit.Preempts work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Did someone really suggest that East should double? IMO, he is at least a king short of a double. Well he does have 3 potentially nice tens...but yeah..agreed completely and I while I am certainly aggressive competing against preempts, doubling here seems quite wrong although, of course, like any dubious action on hands like this, could work out but seems quite anti-percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 If I was east I would double with a queen more. With a jack more I might or might not depending on vul and opponents. With this hand I wouldn't. Damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Looks very normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 East certainly doesn't have enough to intervene directly over the preempt. West knows that at most South has only 1 ♠. As such, South has to have a monster to make any move over 3 ♠. So South is still capable of having a lot more than was actually held. Double in the pass out seat would be takeout. Bidding 4 ♦ on a 6 card broken suit with red pockets is a complete shot in the dark. You might make 130, but you'll also frequently pickup -200, -500, or -800. The only sane course is for West to pass and let North/South struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 IMO,it is always a good option for West seat in this case.there is nothing to comment on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveharty Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 The traveller is probably pretty revealing about the quality of the game. The most common result was 3♠ down two or three undoubled, but 3♠ was doubled once, 4♠ was down four undoubled, and one EW pair played in 4♦. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 and one EW pair played in 4♦. Go figure.Do they have a misunderstanding about the hesitation in the 4♦ overcall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Dave, you have been watching too much BBO :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Do they have a misunderstanding about the hesitation in the 4♦ overcall?Would guess N opened 1♠ and the auction proceeded from there, anybody's guess where it goes at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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