jillybean Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=saq5hkqjt932da5ca&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1np?]133|200[/hv] A hand from last night, partner opens 14-17nt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 This looks like a good hand for Finch "pro". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's wrong with 5NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Pick a slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Well the worst hand partner can have (assuming he has an ace) is something like KJx, Ax, QJxx, QJxx so it's difficult to believe 7N is ZP. It's just possible if he ever upgrades that KJ10, Ax, Q109x, QJ109 is there so 7♥ at teams is plausible to give you the ruffing club hook. I just ask for aces and kings then think, it is very likely to be a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I ask for aces, and I don't even worry about kings. If there are not 13 top tricks in 7NT, then there is probably a finesse or a squeeze for 13 tricks. If we are off an ace, 6NT should be the right spot. We have a minimum of 34 HCP so partner must have the missing kings and making 12 tricks is not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Cool story. Boring bridge problem. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Time to dust off the dreaded Gerber . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Time to dust off the dreaded Gerber .First you'd have to dig him up. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Cool story. Boring bridge problem. ;)I expected it to be a boring, flat board too but it turned into a 5.5/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Pick a slam?In a sense - but the options are 6NT or 7NT, so I guess "quant" is a better description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 In a sense - but the options are 6NT or 7NT, so I guess "quant" is a better description.So you must play 1N 4N as ace ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 No, that's quant to 6N/6m. Over 1 or 2N opening in theory I play 4♣ as the ace ask, in practice I have yet to want to ask for aces over those openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 So you must play 1N 4N as ace ask?I do with one partner, but I don't think it follows from using 1N - 5N as quant. It is quite normal to play 1N - 4N as quantitative, offering partner a choice between game and slam, while 1N - 5N is quantitative, offering partner a choice between 6N and the 7 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 It is definitely useful to have some sort of ace-ask here. If 4♣ or something else (I use 4♠) is not available for this, or 4♥ Texas and then either 4♠ or 4NT, then one could make a 2-level transfer, and over partner's response bid something other than hearts or NTs. After this 4NT will be Blackwood. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 KJx Ax QJTx QJTx is just about the only 14 count I can come up with that doesn't give 13 top tricks. I would just ask for aces whether it would be palooka gerber or texas then 4N, and bid 7N if he has 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's wrong with 5NT?Mike Lawrence wrote a book many years ago, in which the reader 'played along with him' through a matchpoint event with a decent but not great partner. On one hand, he opened 1N, partner bid 5N, and Lawrence explained that this was a quantitative bid forcing to 6N but inviting 7. He held a max so bid 7. Dummy had KQx of hearts, and Mike held 10xx, and inferred from the lead that RHO held the A (and from the non double, plus the itchy look on RHO). He had nowhere to go: even in 6N he needed the heart A onside or the J to be doubleton, and he knew the former wasn't working. So at trick 2 he led a small heart from dummy, and RHO couldn't help himself...up he flew with the Ace, and Lawrence escaped with an average board. What's most wrong with 5N is that it might be misunderstood. What is also wrong is that it is utterly unnecessary. Gerber or Finch, even the non-professional versions, would work as well or better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 A hand from last night, partner opens 14-17nt :)These are the kind of posts that should bring smiles from us bridge fans. Thanks for sharing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's wrong with transfer at the two level and then a cue-bid, asking for KC in hearts and asking for specific Kings afterwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's wrong with 5NT? I almost always want partner to choose the grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's right with 5NT? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 What's wrong with transfer at the two level and then a cue-bid, asking for KC in hearts and asking for specific Kings afterwards?Unless you have a different agreement, "standard" for a new suit at the 3-level is NOT a cuebid for ♥ per se ..... 3-new suit is natural, ostensibly a 2nd 5 card suit ( or very good 4 cards ) , GF . EDIT: Perhaps you mean a 4-level new suit-jump rebid.That would be a self-splinter for ♥ as trump showing a good 6+ cards ♥. Here , I guess you could rebid 4C!.... but partner isn't going to take that as a stiff Ace. But maybe he'll make a courtesy cue of 4D .... then what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 What's right with 5NT?It finds the right level if you intend to play in NT. This might be a good spot to state that my question is honest, it's not a form of saying "5NT wtp". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Partner's hand? [hv=pc=n&s=saq5hkqjt932da5ca&n=skj86ha65dk2ckj73&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1n]266|200[/hv] Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 1NT--4♦4♥--4NT (rkcb in hearts)etc--7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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