jillybean Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=sa63hat5dat72ck43]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South Pass Pass Pass ? Playing IMPS, NV. This does not look like a great 1nt after p-p-p, should I open 1♦? My thinking...if I open 1♦ we will probably play 1nt or 2♦. If I open 1nt and p has 4M we will end up in 2nt, does it really matter? tyiajillybean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Definitely 1NT. We have seven controls (three aces times two, plus our king), two tens that cancel out the flattish shape, and with any major transfer, we've got good fit. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikos59 Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Not at all. Three aces is a definite plus. nikos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 1NT is fine. The big loss from opening 1♦ is if partner turns up with something like a 9 point 5431 hand where you want to be in 4M. Not easy to reach after 1♦ 1M 1NT. Also, the opps are unlikley to have a very long suit once they have both passed, so even if partner is weak in one of your suits you will have good chances to make 1NT (or 2NT if partner has some strength) Bidding is very easy if you have a bid which tells partner almost everything about your hand! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 1NT is fine ! Aces are better than other cards ! Usually 4 HCP is not enough for them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daswallow Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Definite 1NT here.A related issue - if playing a weak NT (12-14) in all 4 seats, would anyone open if the king of clubs was, say, the 10 of clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 First question: Clearly 1NT. Second question:A63AT5AT72T43 Do I open a weak NT in 4th seat?Yes, because everyone has passed I can expect around 9 HCP with partner, usually he won't have much less. He will probably pass this and we have a good chance of making the contract. It will be hard for either opponent to bid something after 1NT. Opening 1D is more dangerous as opps can easily come in and reach their best contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 A clear 1NT, as others mentioned before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 It is often wise to downgrade a hand with 4333 shape. But here you have 7 controls...and aces, after all, are generally under=evaluated. So I would open 1NT. (in fact, I like 14=16 NT range so this is easy 1NT opener for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 if playing a weak NT (12-14) in all 4 seats, would anyone open if the king of clubs was, say, the 10 of clubs? Well, asking question is answering it I think because you play weak NT (12-14) in all 4 seats ! What else would you open ???? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Obvious 1N Just because "Aces and spaces" rhymes does not mean it is good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 interesting i would much rather have AJxQxxKJTxKJx Aces are undervalued in suit contracts, and ESPECIALLY in 3N contracts based on a long suit(EG 3C p to you and you have Axx Axx T9xx Axx this is an easy 3N bid and you may well make a 17 HCP 3N opp KQ seventh and out). However if its a 3N contract based on sheer power, KJ and KQ combinations are better than aces because they have more trick taking potential. Consider Axx opp Qxxxxvs KJx opp Qxxx or ATxx opp QxxvsKJTx opp Qxx. or ATxx opp xxxvsKJTx opp xxx tenace positions are much more valuable in power based 3Ns than aces and spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Aces and spaces control the tempo of the game. They are a nice combo across from a fistful of intermediates OR a minimum hand with a trick source. OTOH Aces in one hand and Kings in the other make 3N very difficult sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 yes but controlling the tempo doesnt mean they take alot of tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Balanced 1NT,not strange! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Dealer: West Vul: EW Scoring: IMP ♠ A63 ♥ AT5 ♦ AT72 ♣ K43 West North East South Pass Pass Pass ? Playing IMPS, NV. This does not look like a great 1nt after p-p-p, should I open 1♦? My thinking...if I open 1♦ we will probably play 1nt or 2♦. If I open 1nt and p has 4M we will end up in 2nt, does it really matter? tyiajillybeanALWAYS open a 15-17 hand 1NT - NO MATTER what position u are - that way YOU limit your hand and MORE importantly your P knows your point range ;) IF you open the quoted hand 1♦ WHAT do u bid over pards 1♥ or 1♠?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 IF you open the quoted hand 1♦ WHAT do u bid over pards 1♥ or 1♠??1nt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Opening 1D and rebidding 1NT shows 12-14, so this suggest that you stil think that this hand should be downgraded :) . I think you should take the earlier posts more serious: this is a fine 15-count, aces and spaces is not a reason to downgrade your hand. Opening 1D and rebidding 1NT would be fine on QJx QJx KQJx QJx (also a 15-count 4333 and, but a much much weaker one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Opening 1D and rebidding 1NT shows 12-14, so this suggest that you stil think that this hand should be downgraded :( No, I'm just saying what I would have rebid having opened 1♦.My 1nt rebid range started off as 13-16 and I am still uncomfortable rebidding 2NT with a flat 15 :blink: More practice needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 This hand isn't worth 15 HCP, but 16 HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 This hand isn't worth 15 HCP, but 16 HCP. Hand could get an upgrade for all the aces.. but it could get a down grade for 3334 distribution and no Ten and no 9/8. So whatever it is worth, I vote less than 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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