badderzboy Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 [hv=d=s&v=b&n=sqj1087hakq873dca10&w=s4hj96daq9852c642&e=s965h102dkj74c8753&s=sak32h54d1063ckqj9]399|300|[/hv] How do you bid this hand to slam. (i) Playing weak NT 12-14 no interference(ii) Weak NT but 2♦ bid over 1NT (iii) Not playing weak NT? i.e. 1♣ - 2♦(Weak Jump overcall)? Many Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 South North 1C 1H 1S 5D* 5N** 6D*** ?? 7S *Exclusive RKC**2 Key cards***Kings???depends on the agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Use GSF.... Assuming transfers:1N 2H2S 5N Opener might bid 3S7S If 2D interference1N (2D) 3S4S 5N7S 1C (2D) 2S3S 5N7S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: Unknown ♠ QJ1087 ♥ AKQ873 ♦ [space] ♣ A10 ♠ 4 ♥ J96 ♦ AQ9852 ♣ 642 ♠ 965 ♥ 102 ♦ KJ74 ♣ 8753 ♠ AK32 ♥ 54 ♦ 1063 ♣ KQJ9 How do you bid this hand to slam. (i) Playing weak NT 12-14 no interference(ii) Weak NT but 2♦ bid over 1NT(iii) Not playing weak NT? i.e. 1♣ - 2♦(Weak Jump overcall)?weak nt, no interference is not hard, but we don't play xfers so have to bid a little 1nt : 2d - gf2s : 2nt - 4 spades, ask3c : 3d - 4 clubs, ask3h : 4c - 4234, cab4h : 4s - 4 controls, spiral scan5d : 7s - top spade, top club, no top diamond, everything known (the 4 controls have to be ♠A, K and ♣K) with 2d interference 1nt (2d) 3d (p) 3s (p) 5nt (p) 7s 1c (2d) x (p) 2s (p) 5nt (p) 7s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Without interferenece:1nt-3h3nt-4s5c -5NT6NT-7s-3 in major shows 5 cards and GF values (choose 3NT or 4M) or 5-5 and slam try.Opener with only two heards bids 3nt and I reverse 4s (1nt-3s/3nt-4h is passable).-5c is cuebid - I know about the king.-Now I must close both eyes and ask by 5NT for trumph quality. After 6NT life is easy but if the answer was "nothing" I would play 6s without AK of trumphs....-I think it would be fine in situations like this one use 4NT as something else than BW. Do you have any tips? After interference:1nt-(2d)-3h-(p)3s -(p) - 5nt-(p)6nt-(p) - 7s - ....-We play lebensohl. 3h is natural and GF. I bid heards first because 6 is more than 5 and I can reverse after possible 3NT rebid.-Partner does not have diamond stopper, has only two heards and 4 spades - clear 3s.-5nt ask for trumph control - I hope he has at least one honour. I know about doubleton heard so clubs should be ok.... HeartA wrote:South North1C 1H1S 5D*5N** 6D***?? 7S ***Kings?***The answer will be 1 king. You can flip a coin - diamond or club king? PriorKnowledge wrote:Use GSF.... Assuming transfers:1)1N 2H2S 5N Opener might bid 3S7S2)If 2D interference1N (2D) 3S4S 5N7S3)1C (2D) 2S3S 5N7SWhy do you bid your spades first?1) You don't know about spade fit.1)+3) You don't know about club king. Opener can have 5 clubs. Then you need he has only 2 heards and 3-2 break. luke warm wrote:1nt (2d) 3d (p) 3s (p) 5nt (p) 7s1c (2d) x (p) 2s (p) 5nt (p) 7sWhat does 3d over 2d mean?I don't think that takeout dbl. with 6-5 is a good bid? What about pass by partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 luke warm wrote:1nt (2d) 3d (p) 3s (p) 5nt (p) 7s1c (2d) x (p) 2s (p) 5nt (p) 7sWhat does 3d over 2d mean?I don't think that takeout dbl. with 6-5 is a good bid? What about pass by partner? you said you play leb... what would 3d mean, playing leb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 PriorKnowledge wrote:Use GSF.... Assuming transfers:1)1N 2H2S 5N Opener might bid 3S7S2)If 2D interference1N (2D) 3S4S 5N7S3)1C (2D) 2S3S 5N7SWhy do you bid your spades first?1) You don't know about spade fit.1)+3) You don't know about club king. Opener can have 5 clubs. Then you need he has only 2 heards and 3-2 break. Bid spades to establish spades as trump for 5N GSF. Only info needed is ♠AK. Willing to risk 6S off AK to easily find 7S with AK.1) After 1N opener, play spades, don't need another trump suit2) ♠AK is 7 with 5-7 more. So many possibilities: AD, KC, pitching clubs on hearts and ruff last club, ♦KQ ruffing finesse, club finesse, or AD lead with KD in dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 HeartA wrote:South North1C 1H1S 5D*5N** 6D***?? 7S ***Kings?***The answer will be 1 king. You can flip a coin - diamond or club king? Well, since I have already use exclusive RKC, ♦K should not count at all.BTW, I think commonly used way of answering Kings is the location not numbers. So depending on agreement, 6♣ (relay) instead of 6♦, can be used for King asking. Or after South answered 2 RC, North could directly bid 7S, hoping ♥ could take care South's ♣ loser(s) if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 1N - 2♦2♥ - 3♠4♠ - 5♦5N - 7♠ 1N - 12-142♦ - Transfer3♠ - 2nd suit5♦ - Exclusion .....bla bla bla With the interference (just as easy): 1N - (2♦) - 3♦3♠ - (pass) - 5♦..... 3♦ = Rubensohl (inv + in hearts) 3♠ = maximum; 4 spades, no heart fit etc.. Not playing weak NT: 1♣ - (2♦) - 2♥2♠ - (pass) - 5♦..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 interesting you all expect east to pass with KJxx of diamonds. Usually east is not so kind in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 luke warm wrote:1nt (2d) 3d (p) 3s (p) 5nt (p) 7s1c (2d) x (p) 2s (p) 5nt (p) 7sWhat does 3d over 2d mean?I don't think that takeout dbl. with 6-5 is a good bid? What about pass by partner? you said you play leb... what would 3d mean, playing leb?3d is stayman without diamond stopper.-2NT-3c-3d is stayman with a stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 HeartA wrote:South North1C 1H1S 5D*5N** 6D***?? 7S ***Kings?***The answer will be 1 king. You can flip a coin - diamond or club king? Well, since I have already use exclusive RKC, ♦K should not count at all.Yes, you are right. Sorry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 interesting you all expect east to pass with KJxx of diamonds. Usually east is not so kind in real life. Imo if East isn't quiet, he's VERY kind, since now both hands can clearly see their ♦s won't have losers... Then I think bidding to grand is "piece of cake" (not thàt easy, but you get the picture)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 PriorKnowledge wrote:Use GSF.... Assuming transfers:1)1N 2H2S 5N Opener might bid 3S7S2)If 2D interference1N (2D) 3S4S 5N7S3)1C (2D) 2S3S 5N7SWhy do you bid your spades first?1) You don't know about spade fit.1)+3) You don't know about club king. Opener can have 5 clubs. Then you need he has only 2 heards and 3-2 break. Bid spades to establish spades as trump for 5N GSF. Only info needed is ♠AK. Willing to risk 6S off AK to easily find 7S with AK.1) After 1N opener, play spades, don't need another trump suitI also bid 5NT and I hope that partner has at least one of AK of spades.I don't understand that you have very good 6 heards and not so good 5 spades.You don't know that partner has 4 spades and only 2 heards. 1nt-2h2s -5nt?s Partner can have:AKJxxxQJxQJ10xIn 7s you can take club finesse but 7h are cold.. Or:KxJxxxAKxxJxx6s one down after club lead, 6h cold... AKxxxxAxxKxxxAlways when your pard has 4h you risk a ruff. 1nt-(2d)-3s-(p)3nt-(p)- what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 wouldn't 1nt (2d) 3d find the heart fits on some of the examples you showed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 1NT-2♥2♠-3♥3♠-5NT/♦... 1NT-(2♦)-3♦3♠-5NT/♦.... 1♣-2♦-X(NFB stinks when you have a 2-suiter)2♠-5NT/♦.... Luckylly partner held 4♠, if he had 3 this one would be vey tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 wouldn't 1nt (2d) 3d find the heart fits on some of the examples you showed?Yes, you find heard fit on hands I showed, you find spade fit on hand from original post.But what do you do after1nt-(2d)-3d-(p)3nt-(p)-?? 3nt is without 4c major and with diamond stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 4d? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 4d?Ok, it's possible.But why? 4d is not in our system and we never used it, I don't know the meaning. Sometimes it's necessary to improvise but why now when I can use descriptive natural 3h? I think that my partner would recognize the meaning of 4d but I will never be sure about the next bidding until final pass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 if the bidding has gone: 1nt-(2d)-3d-(p)-3nt-(p) what possible meaning could 4d have? 3d asked for majors, 3nt showed none... if i was opener i'd take 4d as showing a monster major hand with slam interest, whether or not this exact sequence had been discussed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 If you are playing that 3♦ is stayman then the bidding should go: 1NT-(2♦)-4♦4♠-5NT...-7♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 "what possible meaning could 4d have?" With monster hand in majors I can bid 3h and 4s over 3nt.4d immediately show also majors (it isn't in the system but it's logical).So it can be anything except monster majors.But what else it could be?I can never be sure (mainly after 60 boards played - Isn't it natural? :) ). What I want to say is that it's useless to use speculative bids when you have natural and well known one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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