Bbradley62 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 [hv=lin=pn|chebolu,~~M10198,~~M10196,~~M10197|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S5KAH6KD256QC34KA%2CS89JQH58JD47C579J%2CS6TH9TADTJKC268TQ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CTwo%20NT%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20C%3B%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4N%7Can%7CQuantitative%20invite%20to%206NT%20--%202-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-4%20H%3B%202-4%20S%3B%2010-11%20HCP%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5H%7Can%7C2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%205-%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2020-21%20HCP%3B%20bi%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C6N%7Can%7C2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-4%20H%3B%202-4%20S%3B%2011%20HCP%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7C]360|270[/hv] There was a non-GIB-based discussion of this topic in a recent thread: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/49155-usual-expert-practice/page__p__587647__hl__%2Bquantitative+%2Baces__fromsearch__1#entry587647 So, what is GIB's system for bidding over quantitative invites? I would have thought that showing the number of aces was "intermediate/advanced standard", but it appears that GIB expects something else. (Of course, we can't read the whole explanation of 5♥.) It seems clear that the description should not be "5- H", since "5- H" means "0-5 H". Does GIB think that 5♥ shows five hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Does GIB think that 5♥ shows five hearts? It's one way to play -- to suggest a possible safer place to play when accepting the invitation. But the 5- doesn't seem consistent with that. Perhaps GIB simply doesn't understand and the bid is undefined (the description being gibberish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 5♥-> -- 2-5 ♣; 2-5 ♦; 5- ♥; 2-5 ♠; 20-21 HCP; biddable ♥ Book bid on 5♥ is actually pass - to play with 3-4 cards fit in invitee's hand. 5NT seems like escape plan for misclicks, but are we sure it's misclick? GIB would proceed with 6NT or Pass after such 4NT invite, so simulation led to 6N here. Supposedly there are just two answers on 4NT. If 5♣/♦/♥/♠ are additional invites or aces answers you might go down even with all aces in hand. 5NT wasn't really defined, but added just in case when fit seems impossible like in the example if player picked 5♠. GIB would return to 5NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 5♥-> -- 2-5 ♣; 2-5 ♦; 5- ♥; 2-5 ♠; 20-21 HCP; biddable ♥Then, should the description include "4-5H" rather than "5-H"? Book bid on 5♥ is actually pass - to play with 3-4 cards fit in invitee's hand.I think this is bad. Any bid over 4NT should be an acceptance of the slam invite, and should not be passable at the 5-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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