Phil Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 xx AKJxx KJ9xx x W/r IMPs (2♠) - p -(3♠) - 4♥(4♠) - x - (p) -? 1. What is pard's x?2. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 LOTT is screaming in my head "4♠!? WHAT?!"That being said, I would assume the double is penalties, and I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Partner thinks s/he can extract punishment for opener's indiscretion so I will cooperate and pass. Expecting opener to have a ♥ void. (Lose the title - no place for that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 (Lose the title - no place for that). Absolutely -- very offensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 There's a case for this being a forcing-pass situation, because the auction says that they're not bidding to make. Against that, the auction and vulnerability combined suggest that they just don't know what they're doing. Hence I think partner's double means what all these doubles should mean: he has the values to think we would have made game, and he can't bid to the five-level by himself. I'd pass, because I have fewer hearts than he expects and my suits aren't great, and my defence is reasonable, especially if partner has ♣A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 double shows its our hand unless specific agreements. I would bid 5♦ at other vulnerabilities, but at this one lets go for a maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 (Lose the title - no place for that).Title has been edited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Title has been edited Within the forums the following words have been used (granted some not colloquially): "Retarded" - 72 times "Retard" - 84 times "Tard" - 4 times. Suddenly people are offended by the term? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Within the forums the following words have been used (granted some not colloquially): "Retarded" - 72 times "Retard" - 84 times "Tard" - 4 times. Suddenly people are offended by the term? No, Phil, people are offended by your use of the term to disparage opponents behind their backs.Also, the search box in the upper right returns only 13 results for "retard". Is there a more comprehensive search function somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 No, Phil, people are offended by your use of the term to disparage opponents behind their backs.Also, the search box in the upper right returns only 13 results for "retard". Is there a more comprehensive search function somewhere? Use google for your searches. Type in "www.bridgebase.com/forums" and then your search term of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 He should have used "sheep". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Use google for your searches. Type in "www.bridgebase.com/forums" and then your search term of choice. Weird - I get 10 results from google site-search for retard. Is google including stemmed keywords (retards, retarded, etc) in your result set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 cards, likely short in hearts; I pass unhappily, but I think we're more likely to go + by passing than by bidding 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinst22 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Weird - I get 10 results from google site-search for retard. Is google including stemmed keywords (retards, retarded, etc) in your result set? I'm not going to bother counting, but it looks like quite a few results: http://tinyurl.com/c9dln4b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Within the forums the following words have been used (granted some not colloquially): "Retarded" - 72 times "Retard" - 84 times "Tard" - 4 times. Suddenly people are offended by the term? One of the uses of "retard" was "To retard the thread drift a bit". Maybe a few others were similar? A number of the uses were in the Water Cooler where standards are relaxed. Many of the uses we in reference to oneself (I still don't like it). But, you called out opponents behind their backs and used it in the thread title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm not going to bother counting, but it looks like quite a few results: http://tinyurl.com/c9dln4b That includes stemmed results. The vast majority of those results are returned because they include the word "retarded" (as in retarded bid or play).If you search specifically for retard (by enclosing the term in double quotes) you get 10 results. I should add: I don't really care about the title or whether it should/shouldn't be censored. It seems like a toss-up to me. I was mostly interested in Phil's search result figures because they are counter-intuitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Plankton. Noboby really cares if they take offence, so they are fair game - for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petterb Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'd bid 4♦ over 3♠. I thought everyone played this as non-leaping Michael's nowadays, but apparently that's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'd bid 4♦ over 3♠. I thought everyone played this as non-leaping Michael's nowadays, but apparently that's not the case. I would also have done this, but that was not the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Partner must be showing cards. If partner had a ♥ fit, and ♠ shortness, 5 ♥ could have been bid. Since that didn't happen, I'll pass and take a pretty sure positive. If that doesn't produce a good result, that's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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