lowerline Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 1♦-1♠2♠-4♦ What does 4♦ show? If it shows double fit, which suit is now the trump suit if this is followed by RKB? Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 It does not show a double fit because 3♦ handles those hands and is forcing. So the trump suit is clearly spades. As for what it shows, my guess would be a diamond control but it might depend on what other options are available in the system. This is the kind of bid I would simply never make with a pick-up partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 What is 3 ♦ over 2 ♠ for you? To me 3♦ would be a short suit game try and 4 diamond does not exist. If 3 ♦ is natural and forcing or a kind of HSGT, 4 ♦ sounds like a splinter.If 3 ♦ is natural and non forcing, I would change my methods after the hand and take4 ♦ as natural and forcing and would not use KC at all- and if, it would be 6 cards KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I copied a thread from March 2002, which asked about the following sequence : 1C - 1S2S - 4C = ?? SPLINTER ( for ♠ as trump ) was the answer . One way to look at it is that 3C would have been forcing; thus, 4C = a jump over a ( same suit ) forcing bid ... which is the generic definition for a splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 A) 1S - 2D ( 2/1 GF )3D - 3S = double fit, and ♠ is the established suit for RKC B) NO double fit1D - 1S3S - 4D = ♦ cuebid, denying a ♣ cue and ♠ is absolutely the trump suit . EDIT ( Addition ):C) The only Exception to ( A ) above:1S - 2H ( 2/1 GF )3H - 3S = ♠ cue bid, ♥ is the established suit, ostensibly NO double-fit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Yep, splinter. Just enough room for LTTC too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Looking at the answers, nobody seems to care about:2♠ being a 3crd raiseSplintering in your partner's first bid suit If 2♠ is a 3crd raise, diamonds might be the better denomination. That is an argument for playing 3♦ NF and 4♦ as natural slamgoing. Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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