phil_20686 Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sqt92h2dt92cqj432&n=sak43haj98dakq3c5&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1hdp6sppp]266|200|Not the real bidding but west opened 1H[/hv] I got this hand wrong when I was first shown it, it is a nice counting problem. EDIT: Lead is the ♥K What is the best line in 6S after west opened 1H?What is the best line with no opposition bidding? Experts please give the I/A time to answer, or at least hide your answers with the tags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Opening lead please? In both cases if they are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Can I not be in this one? Looks rather thin. I want to ruff out clubs but on a trump lead and another trump when they're in with the CA, it's becoming rather horrible due to lack of entries to South. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Opening lead please? In both cases if they are different. I put it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Did North ever show club shortness along the way? What methods do EW play? (4 or 5 card majors or Precision maybe?). Sorry to stall but these are relevant questions I would already know at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 The heart king opening lead is odd enough to make the hand double dummy after West opens 1♣. With ♣AK and ♥KQ, it seems highly unlikely the ♥K would be the choice. So one of the top clubs would be in East (and that one seems like it must be the king, to give west 11 hcp in the form of the ♥KQ, ♣A, ♦J, ♠J). Win the ♥A, ruff a heart. The idea is to drop the ♥KQ with two ruffs, or to find diamonds 3=3 and ruff three hearts. You are trying to win 4♠ in dummy, four hearts -- including two or thee ruffs in south, and 4♦. play, ♥A, ♥ruff, ♠Q, ♦x to ace, ♥ruff... did the queen fall? If yes, ♦T playin low if not covered, then pull trumps. If not, ♦ to dummy (covered or not), ruff ♥, diamond to dummy (hoping for 3-3), pull trumps. The play is similar if there was no opponents bidding, except no attempt to finesse in diamonds if the ♥Q falls in three rounds of hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 inquiry - for the "W opened 1H" case: Nice spot that the ♦J is on, but it seems impossible for the ♥KQ drop if W opened hearts? So how about ruffing 3 hearts and always taking the ♦ finesse. This seems to improve your line a little. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Did North ever show club shortness along the way? What methods do EW play? (4 or 5 card majors or Precision maybe?). Sorry to stall but these are relevant questions I would already know at the table. North cuebid clubs, so if west has the AK, he knows north has shortage. 5cM, normal opening styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 The heart king opening lead is odd enough to make the hand double dummy after West opens 1♣. With ♣AK and ♥KQ, it seems highly unlikely the ♥K would be the choice. West opened 1H, not one club, not sure if that was a typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Will try:♥A then ♥ ruff small.Play along dummy reversal lines using (small) ♦ to reach table for 2 more ♥ ruffs.Avoid ♦ finesse - ♦J falling in 3 rounds is 54+%.Play for Trumps to be 3-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 trick 1 heart Atrick 2 ruff a hearttrick 3 club Q (pretty much forcing lho to play the A or K)trick 4 win whatever lho returns go about your business ruffing out the last heart and taking thedia finesse. The reason for playing a club at trick 3 is that we needanother entry back to the dummy and we cannot play dia first sincewe open up extra ruff chances for the opps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 SO kind of the "point" of this hand, is that you place west with the KQH and the AKC. The natural line feels like ruffing three hearts and relying on spades 3-2 and diamonds 3-3. However, if you give lho two spades and three diamonds to go with his five hearts, then you can always set the club suit up. SUppose instead that you play a club at trick two (ducked), lho basically has to return a diamond. Now you could take the spade finesse and ruff a club high and then take the spade finesse and ruff a third club high, and then ruff a heart, draw the last trump. The first line makes on west being 2533 or 3532, this line makes when lho has 2533, 3523, 3523, 3532, 2542, etc, admittedly, it makes only when the spade finesse is making, but since it makes roughly half the time on more than twice as many layouts, it seems to be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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