nige1 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Published lists of random numbers or hands aren't random. For example, if a table of random numbers comprised ten million consecutive sevens, statisticians would reject it, although such a sequence is as likely as any other. Similarly a hand generator that dealt 13 card suits for half a dozen consecutive deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudH Posted December 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 well, these numbers even with stats are not going to help bud out, as these were not generated using "HIS" hands. And there is absolutely no reason to limit the test ot 20,000 deals. He should use 250,000 deals (giving a million unique hands)... or maybe even more. Still, the data presented above easily passes the Chi-Square goodness-of-fit test with unequal expected frequencies, he could even quote the p values (of course, not his deals).... The people at his club will not understand or accept that kind of validation either. It would be great to generate a few hundred thousand deals and check out even the void/singleton/7+ card suit statistics. Unfortunately, Dealer4 is limited to 640 deals and BridgeComposer freezes up well shy of 10,000. Any other program out there that could endure a 100,000 deal PBN file to be loaded into it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 As a good Bayesian I don't believe much in hypothesis testing. But is this case the null hypothesis a quite plausible so it makes a lot of sense. A chi-square test on Ben's numbers gives a p-value of 0.639665152. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 if you wanted to study hands from BBOStephen Picketts bridge browser program would be greatbut I dont think there is any new data from BBO or OKBridge since 2007but the data before that is probably millions of hands it just depends on what type of hand information you are looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 It would be great to generate a few hundred thousand deals and check out even the void/singleton/7+ card suit statistics. Unfortunately, Dealer4 is limited to 640 deals and BridgeComposer freezes up well shy of 10,000. Any other program out there that could endure a 100,000 deal PBN file to be loaded into it? Again, you can use excel to do this for you. Send me 250,000 pbn hands via email (inquiry at bridgebase dot com) and I will get them into excel with the distributional and hcp information for you (thinks like how many hands have 22 hcp, or 15, as well as the singleton and voids and long suit things.... AND send you back the excel file so you can tweek it to get other information you want. As for bridgebrowser, it is great, but it will never address YOUR hands... unless picket releases it into public domain and allows you to add hands to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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