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IMP Team, Both Vul  

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  1. 1. IMP Team, Both Vul

    • pass
      3
    • 2S
      0
    • 2NT
      0
    • 3D
      2
    • 3H
      22
    • 3NT
      0
    • 4H
      13
    • Others
      0


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I expect pard to have something like

 

QJxxx

KQxxx

x

Kx

 

or

 

AQxxxx

KQxxx

--

xx

 

opposite which I'm not going to give pard the opportunity to pass a 3H invitation :rolleyes:

Opposite the second of these hands, you need 2-2 or EAST wtih three to Axx to make, With the first hand, you have a better chance to make, even if you lose two hearts. But if you are going to invent hands, why not...

 

AQJTx Qxxxx xx K.. .you can lose 3 and a club and a diamond, or

AJxxxxAQxxKxx, or

QJxxxAQxxxxQJ, or

AQJxxxAxxxxxA or

QJTxxxAQxxKxx where they double you, and get 2ruff, A, A, and 2 with KJx behind him.

 

Somehow, blind guessing, EVEN VULNERABLE AT IMPs, is just that. Most of the hands where 4 will make, parnter will bid 4, and all the hands where 4 will be crushed, often doubled, partner will pass 3. A leap to 4 may work out, there are some hands partner will not go to game on, that will make (these usually require good splits in however, which maynot be happening on this hand.

 

Ben

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Hum.. I would actually double on most of those hands (some have 12 cards only, btw :rolleyes:), except perhaps the QJxxx AQxxx x QJ one.

 

But then again, if pard's style is such that he balances 2 on hands like the ones you showed, then there is obviously a case for a simple 3. If pard balances 2 more on hands like the ones I showed, 4 is probably a fair bet.

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Why am I the only one voting for 3? For me it is the stronger invitation to 4 than 3, and so exactly the middle-ground between the popular options of 3 and 4. What does everyone think would 3 mean?

 

Arend

As I mentioned in the other post, 3 is natural.

 

Marshall Miles mentioned this in one of the Southern Cal Bridge News columns a number of years ago. He was adamant that 3 should be natural and most of the others agreed.

I don't really think this 3D being natural is a good treatment. If you play this 3D being natural, is it forcing? If it's forcing, why don't you just bid 3NT instead? You think you may belong to 5D? Give me a break. If you don't play this 3D as forcing, you still can bid 2NT over 2H, which also suggests penalty oriented long diamonds. So 3D really should be a cuebid unless you really like to play 3D here as nonforcing, which makes some sense, but it's very rare, and you still can play 3D if you bid 2NT and your smart partner bids 3D to play:)

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All In all I am saying that even in the best case scenario (no D void), the hand is worth 8 hcp and not more (as it would if AJTxx were in OUR suit).

 

I believe this warrants a single raise but no more :-)

well it wouldn't surprise me if 3h is the best bid this time, but my reason for disagreeing has nothing to do with 8 points vs. 9 points... i still think the hand itself is worth 3 or 4 tricks

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