Lanor Fow Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think I know the answer to this, but I'd value opinions. Bidding goes 1♦-1♥-1NT -1♠-1NT You're called to the table and rule that the 1S has been accepted, and the auction continues. P-P-P Who is declarer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffford76 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Who is declarer? The first person to bid NT for the declaring side. From the definitions: Declarer: The player who, for the side that makes the final bid, first bid the denomination named in the final bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 No, it's actually the second person who bid 1NT. I was asked this the other day and told that the answer had been exhaustively researched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Yeah, well, whoever told you that is mistaken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Well, someone is anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMB1 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 What "extensive research" is needed beyond reading the definition? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanor Fow Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I couldn't find it mentioned other than in the definitions, neither the laws or white book seem to expand on that. I may have been asked the question by the same person as Vampyr, as when I gave that answer originally they seemed very unconvinced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 No, it's actually the second person who bid 1NT. I was asked this the other day and told that the answer had been exhaustively researched.So, someone wrote a PhD thesis on the subject of who is declaring at bridge after an insufficient bid has been accepted? Whenever someone tells me that something has been exhaustively researched I ask for references to publications, preferably from authorities in the field. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 So, someone wrote a PhD thesis on the subject of who is declaring at bridge after an insufficient bid has been accepted? Whenever someone tells me that something has been exhaustively researched I ask for references to publications, preferably from authorities in the field. Well, I guess I was inclined to believe the person who told me, because it was opposite from my beliefs and what I have witnessed in practice. So I thought that it could not just be made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Back in the old days on GEnie, in Jerry Pournelle's forum, we used to say "PPOR", which stands for "provide proof or retract". The common analog these days in online gaming forums is "screen shot or it didn't happen". :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 When we called the director after the auction (unopposed) 1♠-1♦-1♥-1♠ it was the first person to bid the suit that declared with Declarer: The player who, for the side that makes the final bid, first bid the denomination named in the final bid. being what was quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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