Strong 2C was interferred by 4S

[pken1234]

Hi, everybody

 

I'm a newcomer from China. If i play 2/1

 

1) NS Vul

2♣ 4♠ ?

What should I bid, holding

♠KX ♥K98X ♦JXX ♣987X

Is double for penlty or general power?

 

2)NS Vul

2♣ 4♠ pass pass

x pass 5♥pass

?

I held ♠AQ ♥AX ♦KQ109X ♣AKQX, PD BIDED 5♥, what should I bid? What a kind of hand my pd should hold?

 

3)NS Vul

1♠ 3♦4♣ Pass

4♥ Pass ?

 

I was holding:

♠A

♥K9

♦Ax

♣AJ98XXXX

 

 

Pken1234

[inquiry]

Welcome to the BBO. Hope you will continue to return. I am not sure we are going to ge much agreement on your four hands, as these seem tough ones. Here is my responses

 

1) Double - shows short spade (ideally one). Partner is free to leave it in with good defense

 

2) This is a toughest hand. I guess most would say that you should bid 4NT (pick a suit at the five level, bidding three card suits up the line), but with only four clubs this isn't a great option either. This is why double with hand 1 is a better choice. If this was the companion hand, your parner could pass the double, or bid 4NT in a scrambling NT kind of syle to find the best (now) 4-4 fit at the five level. Here you are stuck. Is 5NT grand slam try? Pick a minor? to play? I guess because of the confusion over what 5NT would be, you could try 6NT, but all are a blind guess....

 

3) Science doesn't help. A cue-bid of their suit doesn't help (partner will assume you support his suit if you cue bid here). There is no good way to investigate, so I would just blast 6♣. This maybe too high, it maybe not high enough, but even if partner has just one small club, clubs might split 2-2.

 

Ben

[flytoox]

With 1st hand, i think pass first is encouraging. Dbl should say: pd lets def, i may have nothing. THis hand is very good and has slam potential facing a 2c opener. So I will pass, which is forcing.

 

2nd hand, I think you may blast to 6N if you dont want to cause any confusion.

 

Regarding 3rd hand, I agree with blasting to 6c. We may go down a lot, we may make 7c. HOpe pd have at least singleton high club card.

[junyi_zhu]

Hi, everybody

 

I'm a newcomer from China. If i play 2/1

 

1) NS Vul

2♣ 4♠ ?

What should I bid, holding

♠KX ♥K98X ♦JXX ♣987X

Is double for penlty or general power?

 

2)NS Vul

2♣ 4♠ pass pass

x pass 5♥pass

?

I held ♠AQ ♥AX ♦KQ109X ♣AKQX, PD BIDED 5♥, what should I bid? What a kind of hand my pd should hold?

 

3)NS Vul

1♠ 3♦4♣ Pass

4♥ Pass ?

 

I was holding:

♠A

♥K9

♦Ax

♣AJ98XXXX

 

 

Pken1234

It's not what should or what should not. It's a matter of partnership agreement and style. In my partnership agreement, we play double to show value and takeout oriented,

pass as either penalty oriented or very poor hands. So we'd double 4S here.

For the second one, it's probably best to bid either 4NT or even 5D(position issue) instead of doubling, because if you double, it becomes not biddable over partner's 5H in my structure.

For the third one, just bid 6C, which is what you think you can make.

[pken1234]

With 1st hand, i think pass first is encouraging. Dbl should say: pd lets def, i may have nothing. THis hand is very good and has slam potential facing a 2c opener. So I will pass, which is forcing.

 

Flytoox:

 

Please introduce more details about this kind of encouraging pass.

 

I can double with a poor & balance hand. But, with a poor HCP & shaped hand, shall I pass first ?

 

How can i bid with the following hands afte 2C 4S pass pass, double pass?

 

1) S:x H:KT9xxx D:xxx C:xxx(if agree pass first)

2) S:x H:J109xxxx D:xx C:xxx(if agree pass first)

3) S:x H:KT9xxx D:Kxx C:xxx

4) S:xx H:KT10xxx D:KJx C: xx

5) S:xx H:KTxx D:Axx C:Qxxx

6) S:x H:KQxxxx D:xx C:xxxx

7) S:xx H:KQxxxx D:Kxx Cxx

8) S:x H:Kxxx H:Qxx C:Kxxxx

 

How encouraging pass and disencouraging double do work at lower level(like 2C 2S)?

 

Thanks

 

Pken1234

[flytoox]

If you have bergen's better bidding with bergen-uncontested auction or Root and Pavalick's modern bridge convention, check it and they have discussion about this.

 

Generally, after opp's overcall, if it is below 4D, then any suit bid shoud show good 5+card suit and 5+HCP. If it is beyond 4H(inclusive), then pass is encouraging. Dbl is a warning call, ask pd to beware to carry on.

 

Regarding hands you gave here, i would bid as follows. Other posters may have better agreement.

 

1. 5H, this hand could have a slam if pd has some fit.

2. Dbl.

3. Pass, after pd's dbl or suit bid, bid 5H, this should show slam interest.

4. 5H.

5. pass, this is difficult, with such a balanced hand, i dont think there is much chance that RHO could bid 4S. Pd will dbl or bid suit, if pd dbl, I dont know what is right, perhaps pass is right. If pd bid a suit, I think I will raise to 6.

6. Pass, then bid 6H.

7. 5H.

8. 5S, this shows short S and ask pd to pick other suit.

 

Apparently this is only my answer. In practice I dont think you will account such difficult problem so often. These question, as Junyi and Ben said, is better to talk to pd about this. These questions are not those common sense one.

 

If opp overcall 2M, then pass could show a poor hand, if you have a suit with 5+HCP, you should try to bid it out asap.

 

Hongjun