gnasher Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=st952h65d5ct98752&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=p3dd4dpp4hp]133|200[/hv] Partner's sequence shows a flexible hand. Which way do you flex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 So, partner shows something like a 3514, 4513, 4522 or 2524 hand. I would flex to pass, with 5♣ as a close second option. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 So, partner shows something like a 3514, 4513, 4522 or 2524 hand. Rik It depends ....To me bidding 4♥ with 3514 or 4513 is not a good idea. He has an easy second DBL with those imo. At these colors 4♦ by opponents makes it harder for pd to hold 2 diamonds but possible of course.(ref to 2425 4522 hands) I expect pd to have a 6 card ♥ more often... like 3613 4612 2614. We dunno how strong pd could have overcalled, maybe Andy will tell us. I think i would just pass like you did though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yeah def pass partner could have doubled again he s not 45 3613 or so is much more typical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I should have written: "At worst something like 3514...". And even then pass is the correct action. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 join the chorus, partner could double with 5♥, so I pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 DAPO: 2-suiters show which 2-suits by bidding 3H>3D=S+C; 3S>3D=H+C; 4C>3D=S+HPartner did not 2-suite show, so 1-suiter 6+H. PASS, Partner's decision this hand. He did 4H.He didn't repeat Dbl to hear my Clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I am sure that a hand like AKx AKxxx xx KQx would bid this way, so 6H is not guaranteed. Also, even if partner does have 6 hearts, like say AKx AQxxxx x AKx, surely 5C rates to be better quite often. It feels like 5C and pass are pretty close. I could easily see myself bidding 5C at the table. Being able to reach dummy to take finesses might be worth several tricks on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 4♠ I suspect there is a better spot though, if I bid, I have to guess what it is. If he is 4612 I want to be in spades, e.g. AKxx AKxxxx x Ax. If he is 3613 I want to be in clubs, e.g. AKx AKxxxx x AKx. Spades seems better because he doesn't need such a good hand for it to make and he probably has four spades about as often as he has three clubs. With a better hand I might stick it out in 4♥. But I really don't like our chances when my hand is as bad as this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 At the table, this hand passed. Partner had AKx AJxxx Ax AKQ, so 4♥ and 4♠ both needed a 3-3 break, whereas 5♣ was almost cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Partner did not show any clubs so I would not consider bidding them over a likely 8 card and always at least 7 card major suit fit 1 level lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 At the table, this hand passed. Partner had AKx AJxxx Ax AKQ, so 4♥ and 4♠ both needed a 3-3 break, whereas 5♣ was almost cold.4♥ would not be my choice. I would certainly double again. This hand would not mind defending if partner chooses so, particularly at favorable vulnerability.(lead trumps) Rainer Herrmann 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 4♥ would not be my choice. I would certainly double again. This hand would not mind defending if partner chooses so, particularly at favorable vulnerability.(lead trumps)The possibility of a second double's being left in almost zero. The opponents have reached 4♦ at adverse, with at most a combined 15-count. They are certain to have a 10- or 11-card fit. So, advancer has a singleton or void diamond and very little in high cards. Why would he leave in a takeout double? If a second double is going to be taken out, it loses opposite 4315, and probably opposite 4216. Opposite what shapes does it gain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 The possibility of a second double's being left in almost zero. The opponents have reached 4♦ at adverse, with at most a combined 15-count. They are certain to have a 10- or 11-card fit. So, advancer has a singleton or void diamond and very little in high cards. Why would he leave in a takeout double? If a second double is going to be taken out, it loses opposite 4315, and probably opposite 4216. Opposite what shapes does it gain?I disagree.I think a second DBL at the four-level makes it at least very likely that doubler has 4 tricks on defense. At this vulnerability and level I want my partner to pass a second DBL if a) we might go down if we bid. b) they are likely to go down two when we have game. In other words a second DBL at the 4 level against red opponents should be left in quite frequently. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Why didn't I open the obvious 3C in first seat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why didn't I open the obvious 3C in first seat?Good question. From this you can deduce that I held the strong hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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