p-3c-dbl-p-4c

[Stephen Tu]

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- think 4c should show 4-4 or 5-5 in the majors, not just point count? How does north evaluate as 11-12 total points anyway?

- 3s is enough?

[georgi]

Thanks, fixed. Won't consider cuebid raise with fewer points.

[Stephen Tu]

Fixed how? Does the cue bid now show length in both majors (4+H 4+S)? It should bid 3s with this hand IMO, 4s with this hand shape but stronger (NOT cue bid), and only cue when it wants partner to choose the major IMO. I get the feeling it is prioritizing cue bid over 4M because of strength which is wrong. If its too strong for 4M, thinks slam ought to be explored, with two card disparity I think it should just bid 5s.

[georgi]

Just fixed not to promise 11+TP (11-12 here) with fewer. As having only 8TP here.

 

It will bid 3♠ here now.

 

That rule is quite below in prios, so with enough points GIB will bid its major, but 4major (with jump) promises 5+ length.

[Stephen Tu]

Just fixed not to promise 11+TP (11-12 here) with fewer. As having only 8TP here.

 

It will bid 3♠ here now.

 

That rule is quite below in prios, so with enough points GIB will bid its major, but 4major (with jump) promises 5+ length.

 

Is it playable to have 4M promise 5? What if advancer is say 2443, 2434, bad clubs doesn't want to play 3nt. Cue bids, shouldn't opener with 4-3 in the majors bid 4 spades? 4-3 fit is sometimes only game, hard to get there if advancer can't bid it.

 

I think 4M should only promise 4 (and 3- other major), but:

- with 4-4 in the majors and 4 level strength cue bid instead (if not enough for 4, bid 3s)

- with 4 cd in only one major, stopper in preempt suit simulate between 3nt/4M.