gwnn Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 You have AKxKTxxxxQxxx All white at matchpoints, LHO deals and it goes 1S-p-p-1NT2C-2H-3C-? However, LHO asked your partner what 1NT showed and the answer was '15-17 but slightly wider, say 14-18' whereas you had agreed clearly to play this 12-15. What are the LA's and what does the wrong explanation suggest? So what do you bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I don't think there is a LA to 3♥. The wrong explanation suggests that partner's upper limit is lower -- he would have made a game try with some hands that would be willing to signoff in 2♥ opposite our agreed range. But, I don't think there was ever a question of bidding 4♥ opposite partner's signoff, so i don't think it is a LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I don't think there is a LA to 3♥. The wrong explanation suggests that partner's upper limit is lower -- he would have made a game try with some hands that would be willing to signoff in 2♥ opposite our agreed range. But, I don't think there was ever a question of bidding 4♥ opposite partner's signoff, so i don't think it is a LA.Agreed. He might still bid 4♥ now we've supported, but you're not forced to. Do you ever pass ? I don't think so, and if you do, it will be ruled back to 3♥ if 3♥ was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 What do you know without the UI? You know that you have shown 12-15 balanced and that partner wants to play in two hearts. What do you know by looking at your hand? You have a nine- or ten-card heart fit and want to bid 3H. So, you bid 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's complicated because there are three possible (not necessarily logical) calls: pass, double and 3♥. Certainly 3♥ is the normal call, while pass is suggested by the UI. If you decide that double is not a LA, then you adjust if the player passes and that works better than 3♥ would have. If you decide that double is a LA, it gets messy. Pass could be adjusted to either 3♥ or double, or 3♥ could be adjusted to double or vice-versa. Double is certainly a poor call but people do choose it sometimes in these situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I can't imagine that a minimum with 4-card support for partner's suit will want to bring out double, whatever it means - with AKxx xx KTx QJTx I'd expect that double would likely be the right call. With the right information, I can't see any alternative to "compete" - I know C players will pass because "I'm minimum and we're clearly outgunned", but that's why they're C players (actually C players will pass because they only have an 8-card (spade) fit, or so they think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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