lalldonn Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would always bid 2♠. It's not up to me to worry whether partner has 3 or 4 in my opinion. If he was willing to play a 4-3 then I don't see why it would bother him to play it just one level higher when my hand is better than it might have been. I ditto the lol at trying for game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would always bid 2♠. It's not up to me to worry whether partner has 3 or 4 in my opinion. If he was willing to play a 4-3 then I don't see why it would bother him to play it just one level higher when my hand is better than it might have been. I ditto the lol at trying for game. Maybe, I'm just thinking our hearts will be good on defense and our bad spades will make a 4-3 problematic combined with our 3 small diamonds. Honestly, it probably doesn't matter much whether we pass or bid 2S, we are almost always going to play 2S either way if partner is 4-1 and we will probably rate to go plus in 2S or defending 2H if partner does pass it out and is 3-1 or somehow 4-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Has Germany seceded from Europe?For some geography is not their strong point and tests show more and more people are unable to read and comprehend a normal written text, also called "functional illiteracy". Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I've a few partners who would insist a double by opener here shows 3-card ♠ support. I think 2♠ is the best way to give opponent's the last guess. Then my ♥ will come into play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 For some very good card players bidding is not their strong point and experience suggests that more and more bridge players are unable to go through an entire session without having a bidding misunderstanding. This snipe was uncalled for. Phil's PS included a reference to the ACBL which made it clear he thought Rainer was American. Andy's (humourous) retort was sufficient. Besides, Germany does not secede from Europe, it conquers it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Besides, Germany does not secede from Europe, it conquers it!Well, right now it is basically buying it. But we Europeans should be grateful that at least Germans are still aware that there is such a thing as Europe outside Germany, whereas "United Stateans" are so convinced that they are the continent that they even refer to themselves as "Americans". ;) Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Well, right now it is basically buying it. RikWhat are the Germans buying or conquering? The mood in Germany is quite different. Germany is blackmailed to pay up to keep a silly currency union afloat, for the moment that is. Germans are paying for the liabilities of foreign banks (mainly French, Spanish and Swiss), for corruption and tax dodging in Southern European countries and organized crime like the Mafia, because Italy can not find other finance for them any more. That is the reality behind all this nonsense talk. Rainer Herrman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Whoa! Maybe I should prefer Germans conquering Europe instead of buying it. Chill dude. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 That is the reality behind all this nonsense talk. No the reality is that the Bundesbank is run by the the World's Worst central banker, who is preventing the ECB from taking the policy actions that might save the euro. Meanwhile, the German press seem to regard him as some kind of Hero, for destabilising the eurozone and insuring that the best possible outcome will be a Japan - style deflationary spiral for the next twenty years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 No the reality is that the Bundesbank is run by the the World's Worst central banker, who is preventing the ECB from taking the policy actions that might save the euro. Meanwhile, the German press seem to regard him as some kind of Hero, for destabilising the eurozone and insuring that the best possible outcome will be a Japan - style deflationary spiral for the next twenty years. My gut instinct is that Jens Weidman would bid 3♠ on this hand, ignoring the mountain of evidence that partner is never 4135 and merely has a pile of seaweed. It would end with a severe write-down from AAA to junk status after a thin penalty double by RHO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 My gut instinct is that Jens Weidman would bid 3♠ on this hand, ignoring the mountain of evidence that partner is never 4135 and merely has a pile of seaweed. It would end with a severe write-down from AAA to junk status after a thin penalty double by RHO. For those, yes 1♠ showed 4 card spades. Whether it is a good agreement ot not is irrelevant. And yes, if it showed 3 card spades, as some of you predicted i would have mentioned it. Phil you are not bidding 4♠, it is teamgame not MP, pd knows that we are aware he doesnt have much except than shape. He doesn't know though if my heart holding is fitting well or not vs a single. Anyway, Roy Wellan bid 3♠ at the other table, his pd Sabine Auken passed, i also bid 3♠ my pd whom i played the first time an Israeli national team player raised to 4♠. From replies i see that 2♠ would be much better. Here is pds hand J963--A942KQJ54 3♠ is making but pd went down 2 to make it. ♠ AKT was in same hand with 4 card clubs, over dummy (our hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 I don't understand any bid apart from 2S. So what if partner has only 3? For me the x double showed 4-4 Majors. This is also the only sequence for me where I would let my rho's bid change my bidding structure. eg 1C (1H) 1S = 4+S, x = minor suit cards, denying the ability to bid 1NT and denies 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsteele Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sj952hat84d963ca4&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=pp1c1dd1h1s2h]133|200[/hv] Team game, nothing special about the bidding, 1♣ 3+ std 2/1, x showed 4-4 majors. As Marty Bergen said of this situation "there is no standard" so let me outline the simplistic method I prefer. I bid one spade with 4 spades and 11-13 support points and bid 2 spades with 4 spades and 14-15 support points. Therefore responder on the given hand will bid 2 spades over one spade. This is not invitaional but simply follows the law. The idea that the negative double "always" shows 4-4 is bothersome as always is seldom a viable term in a game of judgement. It seems reasonable to me that over one heart in the given sequence one might make a negative double holding AQJ xxxx XX Qxxx or even certain 4-6 hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Anyway, Roy Wellan bid 3♠ at the other table, his pd Sabine Auken passed, i also bid 3♠ my pd whom i played the first time an Israeli national team player raised to 4♠. From replies i see that 2♠ would be much better. Here is pds hand J963--A942KQJ54 3♠ is making but pd went down 2 to make it. ♠ AKT was in same hand with 4 card clubs, over dummy (our hand) There are a couple of problems: 1. We both have ♠J9xx. 2. I've never seen Sabine in partscore when game was bid at the other table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 There are a couple of problems: 1. We both have ♠J9xx. I guess that's why they call it 'duplicate' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Sorry pd had Qxxx, obviously :) There are a couple of problems: 1. We both have ♠J9xx. 2. I've never seen Sabine in partscore when game was bid at the other table. Well...if you don't take my word, hand records is available for everyone ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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