RunemPard Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 NV/VPlaying 2/1What would you choose in MP, TM, and IMPs?What hand are you expecting from partner? [hv=pc=n&n=s4hkt862dakt74cj2&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1n2sp3sdp?]266|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewj Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 NV/VPlaying 2/1What would you choose in MP, TM, and IMPs?What hand are you expecting from partner? [hv=pc=n&n=s4hkt862dakt74cj2&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1n2sp3sdp?]266|200[/hv] Well given I have a stiff spade, I am expecting 22(54) or 2155 or so. Between 4 and 5♦. Opps haven't bid overly agressively which suggests things might be breaking for us. Stick me down for 5♦ at teams, might be right at pairs as well...yeh go on, I'll bid it at mps as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 4♦ seems like plenty with my ♥K facing probably shortness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 4♦ seems about right. I expect pard to be 3-1(4-5) and under the dilusion it is our hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffford76 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 NV/VPlaying 2/1What would you choose in MP, TM, and IMPs?What hand are you expecting from partner? Partner has extras and no clear call. 4♦ seems like plenty to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsteele Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I expect that pd has a limit raise in hearts with only three trump. He may even hold 4 spades in a 4-3-1-5 hand. I pass though I am one of a few left that believe penalty doubles are more lucrative than the "do something intelligent modern double". It should be noted that the 2S bid over one NT is often tactical and pre balancing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I expect that pd has a limit raise in hearts with only three trump. He may even hold 4 spades in a 4-3-1-5 hand. I pass though I am one of a few left that believe penalty doubles are more lucrative than the "do something intelligent modern double". It should be noted that the 2S bid over one NT is often tactical and pre balancing. So partner might have four spades for his 1N call and three hearts for his double. Interesting. Fun to read about your rebellious view about these 'lucrative' penalty doubles however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I do not think anything but 4♦ is a serious alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 partner is comiting to the 4 level, ♣AK♦Q are in his range and even more. 5♦ looks right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 5♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 :P Sounds like we belong in our 9 or ten card ♦ fit. Imho, 4♦ is enough since we only have about half the HCP, and the ♥ king may not be all that great opposite pard's shortness. I am willing to let pard decide what to do if the opps bid 4♠. Five diamonds isn't crazy if the table feels right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 4D seems like the correct bid to me. 5 is too much and three not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 three not enough.I 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would bid 3D round before. I guess it was not possible in OP's system. I happily bid 4D now expecting partner to be 2-2-(4-5) with extras most of the time. I don't think we make 5 opposite that often enough although we will miss some games due underbid in previous round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would bid 3D round before. So what would you bid onxAKxxxAKQxxJxAlso 3D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 5 ♦ looks right. If partner does not hold enough to make, they often make 4 ♠.And they will bid 4 ♠ often anyway- one is short in diamonds, they have at least 9 spades, quite often ten and half of the deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 So what would you bid onxAKxxxAKQxxJxAlso 3D?Sorry Ron but that's an obvious double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 i am indeed pretty darn minimum and that normally gets a minimalist response from me so4d seems like the right thing to do. In this case however I think it is underestimating what thex from p is doing--P feels their hand is worthy of possibly making 4 of a minor opposite 3 cardsupport from me. Well i have FIVE card support and even though my heart K may be a wastemy singleton spade convinces me to try 5d Even w/o imagining the perfect cards from p if they hold as little as say xx x xxxxx AQxxxwe are a huge favorite to make 5d and p can easily be an ace stronger (that 3s bid can bemade with almost nothing) I would not be overly surprised if we missed slam. There is also the tactical consideration that if we cannot make 5d the odds the opps can make4s goes up. I would much rather bid 5d now than have to bid it after the opps bid 4s withthis being especially true at IMPS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 5♦ 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunemPard Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Playing with a random partner, they chose to pass for -1 and +200. I suppose they took my double as penalties... 5♦ is making easily. I found this board interesting, because playing 2/1, this double can be slightly more wide-ranging in values. [hv=pc=n&s=s72ha4dj832cat863&w=saj9853hqjdq9cq95&n=s4hkt862dakt74cj2&e=skqt6h9753d65ck74&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1n2sp3sxppp?&p=cas2dah2]640|480[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 x is one hell of a call by south..wow. I played south for more ...much more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Hi, I pass, regardless of scoring. #1 X is penalty. ( Added later - More precise the X is optional, indicating 10-12 bal.)#2 I would not have passed over 2NT, but this is stylistic, matter of agreement set.#3 They made it? Next board. After seeing your partners hand - just ask him, if he happens to have a penalty X? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 :P Hmmmmm............. 5♦ is a pretty good contract, but it needs no ♦ loser to make. I'd say that on the bidding ♦ 2-2 is less likely than normal. So, I missed yet another game. Maybe they will push us there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 3♠ doubled is down 2 or should be and it doesn't look that tough. That's where I would be playing it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 LMAO !!! I mean i wasn't kidding when my earlier siggy said that i go to BBF if i need to laugh. This topic was posted on 23rd october. Look at the replies, no pass, NOt even a single pass, not even someone considering or mentioning a pass untill OP posts the 4 hands. And TA-Rammm here comes i would have passed the double and defend 3♠ replies at Oct 26th. I wonder if you guys really would pass, had OP said pd had (just changing his minor cards and a club spot) 3♠ doubled making and our 5♦ still making. 72A4J9832A986 :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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