150655941 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sj743haq7653dj75c&w=shj82d98ckqjt9743&n=saq852ht4dq643ca5&e=skt96hk9dakt2c862&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1sp3d4c4sp5cp6sdppp]399|300[/hv]这牌该怎么叫？哪里出了错？体系是哈代2/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U19 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 我的方法是反二盖一进局逼叫应叫法，2m应叫在应叫人有能力叫（包括阻击）3M开始；问叫pd有没有所叫花色的止张！ 1S-2D4C，4D-4S= 非常简单的逻辑：2D问有控制么？或者是D套；4D后回叫4S，表示的是D是弱套，后面再叫脑子就进水了！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21574770 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 4♠都打不成的牌叫到6♠，有空门就胆子大了，这样叫牌和体系无关，只是和对牌的理解有关，南的5♣太具鼓励性，有满贯兴趣大概也只能5♠邀请吧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 3♦是隐蔽的斯普林特，表示9+~12-HCP，四张将牌支持，有单缺。由于敌方的插叫，开叫方不能正常按哈代加叫进行（问单缺等）。但开叫方叫将牌花色到成局，从逻辑上理解，应该是无满贯兴趣。应叫方也是低限，应PASS。即使在应叫方叫出5♣（显然叫得过强），开叫方由于♦的弱点（没有控制），也应当选择叫5♠，而不是直接6♠。相比而言，应叫方的错误更大一些。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qf2000 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 如NS是临时pd，看起来，NS貌似除了1s，其他都是想当然之豪放叫牌？ :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shingkit Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 看来3♦是伯根加叫，表示4张♠支持的限制性加叫。如果CF华人论坛统一采用哈代加叫，觉得用隐藏的斯普林特： 1♠ - 3♥ (4C)4♠ - AP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 嗯，看错了，3♦不是哈代加叫，应该是伯根加叫，那样的话，更不能到满贯了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putoo Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 这是一副开玩笑叫牌。1s已经把牌完全叫完了，12点均型，一点多余牌力也没有，除了被动答叫，不可能再做跳跃式叫牌，可以说4s都无权叫，已经处于自由状态了。一手差牌还有个ca，也能进6，把牌叫强了2个档次。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 对牌值的估算不能无限放大，打哈代2/1时3D的应叫已经是高估了牌值但也算可以接受吧，5C再叫又再次高估一手牌值。在敌方争叫4C后,开叫方似乎可以PASS表示低限牌力，让搭档决定最后是惩罚还是打4S定约。 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
150655941 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 哈代的3D不是逼局的限制性加叫吗？参照1H开叫。4S就表示没有兴趣。有兴趣会4D扣叫，不会4S。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 哈代的3♦是个空缺叫品。开叫1♠不能比照开叫1♥的加叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 哈代的3♦是个空缺叫品。开叫1♠不能比照开叫1♥的加叫。关于这个问题在讲课中已做了调整 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 哈代的3D不是逼局的限制性加叫吗？参照1H开叫。4S就表示没有兴趣。有兴趣会4D扣叫，不会4S。3D不逼局，但面对搭档4张支持有单缺的限制性加叫，难道不该进取一些吗 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arter Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 北家4S叫不叫很难说。但5c过分是一定的。你的牌敌人4C已经帮你叫完了。PD只是4S而已。他不知道你C单缺？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKQJ2008 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 拍档双方都没有多余实力 仅仅因为控制好就非要向满贯发展是很不成熟的表现 :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaoqi Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 总喜欢搞一些不中不洋的叫法如果规矩叫一声2h会有这种问题吗??任何体系规矩叫牌总不会错 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 3♦是否可以有待商榷。4♠、5♣、6♠都是严重无理的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sj743haq7653dj75c&w=shj82d98ckqjt9743&n=saq852ht4dq643ca5&e=skt96hk9dakt2c862&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1sp3d4c4sp5cp6sdppp]399|300[/hv]这牌该怎么叫？哪里出了错？体系是哈代2/1. 这是早期的同学帖子。那么让我们再次回眸审视这牌如何处理吧。 1- 用哈代加叫叫3♣而非3♦2-直接进局不是好的加叫。3-如果采用fit-showing jump约定方式，再叫3♦表示5张♦+4张♠，建设性加叫。4-应叫人再叫5♣排除性问叫，非常无理。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 其实，这副牌和“老版学牌之——关于一副畸形牌”的牌例很类似，都是将牌有4张支持，加一边花长套。我觉得这副牌也应该直接叫4S。南如果用bergen，叫3D也可。北叫4S也不算错，边缘局宁可冒一点。 南后来叫5C，就过于离谱。毕竟手上没有D控制，H需要支持（至少需要HK能飞成），S又缺乏大牌。叫5C，指望同伴张张大牌都有用？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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