catch22 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 [hv=pc=n&n=skqt2haj7dqt65cj5]133|100[/hv] Amber IMPs Auction 1(1C)-X-(P)-4S(5C)-? Auction 2(1C)-X-(P)-4S(4NT*)-? *2 Suits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Pass for me, I already showed this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Same. If anything, the fact that I am 4-3-4-2 and not 4-4-4-1 argues more for passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 pass, I have my bid, nothing more and not even the ideal short club.In a partnership with "lesser" standards about the major length, I would bid 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 What would 3♠ over the x have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 What would 3♠ over the x have been?Weaker and longer than a 2♠ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I also don't see any reason to do anything but pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Weaker and longer than a 2♠ bid. I think we are endplayed into passing then. If 3♠ would have shown an invitational hand with 5 pieces, and 4 shows more playing strength than that, then making another call is plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 the minority report returns is this a good hand for forcing pass to apply??? P has freely jumped to game at equal vul (though limited by not cue bidding first to show power)Is this alone enough to eliminate forcing pass?? I do not believe so. N original x has a verywide range and it can be very important to let p know it is inadviasable to proceed here. I think once you take FP into consideration the very minimal N hand should x to tell p aboutthe minimum nature of their hand. This does not guarantee a set of 5c it is designed to warn pabout the hazards of continuing. IMO n should x over both 5c and 4n to show this minimum and leave the rest to partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I don;t think that is normal to play this as a FP sequence. Partner just showed a preemptive raise. I would consider dbling 4N to tell partner that I have defensive holdings in declarers side suits. Not sure I would actually do it on this hand, but it is worthy of consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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