Fluffy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I was dealt yesteday this beatiful collection: ♠AQJ9843♥-♦AKJ43♣8 Expecting some action in third position, I was happy to see partner open the bidding with 1♥, he rebid 2♣ over my 1♠ opponents being silent. Now I could try 3♦ to show 5-5 GF, but as far as I know 7-5s are not very good at showing, and 3♦ gets me with no rebid if partner bids the normal 3NT over it. So I tried 2♦ to have a spade rebid next at least. Feel free to coment if you think something else is better. Partner bid 2NT over 2♦ wich clearly located ♦Q on his hands, that's one of the 3 cover cards I need for grand, so I was happy with my start, ♠K can also be ruffed out with his ♦Qxx probably so only ♣A is missing. I bid 4♦ now trying to set trumps, hoping partner would cuebid 4♥ if he has ♥A, that way I can know about ♣A using 4NT blackwood over 4♥ or 4♠ and bid grand over 5♣. Partner bid 4♥ and I did keycard as planned, he answered 5♣ (3-0) wich was not expected, could he think ♠K is a keycard? did he forget agreements and is answering 14-30?, don't know but at this point I am not forcing to slam with all this doubts. So I settled for 6♦ LHO, an old lady but whoom I rate as advanced, instadoubled and it came back to me, now it looked like LHO had 2 aces and something else, maybe ♠K or maybe diamond lenght, but what is partner's hand? its hard to imagine hands without aces nor ♠K and opening values, is 6♠ better?, if LHO has ♦10xxxx and partner ♦Qx it is, but partner could be void in spades... all in all I passed not really convinced, LHO took a bit to lead and finally produced a low diamond, this was the hand:[hv=pc=n&s=saqj9853hdakj83c8&n=skhkj965dt94ckq93&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp2dp2np4dp4hp4np5cp6ddppp]266|200[/hv] ♦10 won the trick and nobody was really nervous, I unblocked ♠K and plaed a diamond to hand, RHO pitching ♥2 (std), sad, now I had no real chances to make, except for a missdefence, I started to play spades untill LHO ruffed with ♦Q, she took some time and again, but for a second time she didn't want to commit to cashing an ace, she exit with a trump removinf dummy's last one. I had one more bullet left, started to run all my tricks ending up with:[hv=pc=n&s=shd8c8&w=shadca&n=shkdck&e=shqtdc]399|300[/hv] But LHO was not colaborating she took another deep though but pitched ♥A to put my slam down :( feel free to coment if you would take another route with my hand, my partner's 4♥ bid is dreadful, and I also berated him for 2NT althou in retrospect 2NT is not that bad, althou it would not be my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monikrazy Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 It seems to me that 1♠, 2♦ under represents the strength of S hand. And after that we don't ever show our length in spades. Edit: I would respond 2♠ to opening bid, not 2♣, was a little mixed up in my first response. Also, I think N probably does better to pass with his hand than open the bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 It seems to me that 1♠, 2♦ under represents the strength of S hand. And after that we don't ever show our length in spades. I would bid 2♣ to show points initially, planning to show my strength in spades later in the auction. Also, I think N probably does better to pass with his hand than open the bidding. Partner opened. Are you really responding 2C when you are 7-5, when neither suit is clubs? I would bid 3S over 2NT to set trumps. Then we can see if partner bids 4C. If he does, then I guess I just bid 5H exclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Agree with Monikrazy, I'd pass with the North hand (reverse the majors and I'd open) Over your 2♦ bid I'd bid 3♦ with the north hand, gets the shape out there. You can then bid 3♠ and with the stiff King North should bid 4. TBH I'm probably going down in 6♠ as after partner denies 2 (or 3) controls I would still like my chances in 6♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I can also see some point in not opening the N hand, but many would, and for that matter I probably would, so let's assume it starts 1♥. I believe that if I were playing with my clone it would then continue:1♥ 1♠2♣ 2♦2♥ 2♠3♠ My thinking so far: 1.After the 2♣ bid I am not optimistic about diamonds, I would rather cast my fate with my quite good seven card spade suit. 2. After 2♦ I think (well, my clone thinks) the main message of 2♥ is that I am forced to bid something and I am not bidding NT with my holding. If NT is right, you bid it pard.3. After 2♥ my 2♠ should show great confidence in playing this in spades.4. If pard can rebid 2♠ opposite my spade silence, the stiff K should be trump support. We still have to stay out of 6, but this start should give us a decent chance. It's always easier when we see both hands, but I think there is a reasonable chance my clone and I would bid these hands this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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