mr1303 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 And another +710. Anyone to blame for this one?[hv=pc=n&s=skha52da74cakqj54&n=saj95432hqd863c97&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=pp2cp2dp3cp3sp3np4sppp]266|200[/hv] I should add that South dealt and it was NS vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=skha52da74cakqj54&n=sq6hkt98dkqct8632&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=2cp2dp3cp3sp3np4sppp]266|200[/hv] And another +710. Anyone to blame for this one? i don't know about the bidding, but the play must have been pretty hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 i don't know about the bidding, but the play must have been pretty hot. Sorry, I put the South and West cards in on this one by mistake. Duly amended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's a decent but not stellar slam on a diamond lead. What was 2♦ ? (and if negative, was there a second negative available over 3♣) I would like to be able to give some sort of suit positive or semi positive to 2♣ with this type of hand. I think I'd move over 4♠, AQJxxx/AQxxxxx and a singleton or the 10♣ is enough to make 7 decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Blame the guy on lead. Do you really want to play 6 ♠ after a diamond lead? How is this slam decent if the Queen of spades is not doubleton? 6 Club is better- but this time a trump lead may give you more then one headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Let's start eharmonybridge.com or matchbridgepartners.com for Mr1303. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 This time missing slam is not ridicoulous, but why is north bidding 2♦ with 7 good spades? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Blame the guy on lead. Do you really want to play 6 ♠ after a diamond lead? How is this slam decent if the Queen of spades is not doubleton? 6 Club is better- but this time a trump lead may give you more then one headache.Q♠ doubleton or the hand with ♠ Qxx/10xxx following to 3 clubs. 6♣ on a trump lead is worse than 6♠ on a diamond lead I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 No blame -- this looks like the fortunate hands that come up from time to time. After a ♦ lead, this hand rates to go down in slam about 2/3 of the time. It looks like East has a natural ♦ lead on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iviehoff Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 What was the 2C opener, looks a bit thin for a normal Acol 2C, isn't this really what you opened 2D for last time? Do you have any agreements on what 2C-3S and 2C-4S mean? Or 2C-2D-something-jump in spades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I would have done more as North, although it is very poor. We have at least two tricks for partner in clubs, and the heart queen is often worth something. Playing total points, Seven Spades is the best contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 This time missing slam is not ridicoulous, but why is north bidding 2♦ with 7 good spades?Exactly. North has to bid his spade suit as a positive or make some other natural call. Many players use a 3♠ response to show a hand with KQTxxx of spades and out, in which case the 3♠ bid is not available for a hand like this one. But North should show his long suit immediately. I suppose it might be a system violation to bid 2♠ as a positive response if it requires 2 of the top 3 honors or some such suit requirement. And fudging the requirement because of compensating length might lead to problems (here, opener would assume that the partnership had the A, K and Q of spades). But if 2♦ followed by 3♠ and 4♠ is the proper way to bid this hand, then South cannot pass 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I don't understand why this is a 2C opening but the 5530 on the other thread was a 2D opening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'm blaming North but it's only for about 25% with 75% being no-one's fault. AJxxxxx and not a 7222 shape, I'm showing a positive. 1 less spade or no J or a 7222 shape and I'll go via 2♦ negative. I'd bid 2c 2s3c 3s3NT 4s? Holding 2 red Aces and AKQJxx and stiff King opposite a positive I think most souths would use RCKB as if AQxxxxx then 6 is where I want to be. If AQJxxxx then grand is on but I'm not finding it - though I'd expect a jump to 3♠ on that hand. After finding only the A♠ and no Q♠ I'm not sure if I'd bid 6 or pass 5? I'd prbably bid 6 and hope that he has enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I would have done more as North, although it is very poor. We have at least two tricks for partner in clubs, and the heart queen is often worth something. Playing total points, Seven Spades is the best contract. If your pd had a 2♣ opener it wouldn't be as poor as it is. If we need to blame someone for missing something that would be North since South did overbid already by 2♣ imo. I agree with Frances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 If your pd had a 2♣ opener it wouldn't be as poor as it is. If we need to blame someone for missing something that would be North since South did overbid already by 2♣ imo. I agree with Frances. Hmm I didn't really look at souths hand that hard. I went on the presumption of a 2c opening. I wouldn't open that 2c either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 If your pd had a 2♣ opener it wouldn't be as poor as it is. If we need to blame someone for missing something that would be North since South did overbid already by 2♣ imo. I agree with Frances. I think the guy who opened 2♦ was North on this occasion and it seems like the mystery selector has a point ... :( And I agree about 2♣ - give me an extra red queen and it's now borderline, but I would still open 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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