bluecalm Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=s84ha5dk852ckq732&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p1c1hdp1n3hdp]133|200[/hv] 1♣ = polish club but it's the same as 2+ in this situationfirst dbl = 4 or 5 spades2nd dbl = extras Good/star opps, imps. Your choice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 2nd double extras but whats the minimum for it ? I would think it requires at least a decent 11 hcp since we are limited by 1 NT (or did we ? Because i am not familiar with this system) But i am assuming pd has a hand an invitation vs a weak NT, but i cant see how to refuse the invitation any safer than just bidding 3 NT. 3♥ bid tells us that ducking hearts 1 time will be enough to cut their communication most of the time, otoh he didnt preempt, he bid 1 and then 3 ♥ which means he will have entries, not his pd. So 3 NT is unlikely to make unless we have 9 fast tricks which i doubt because if we had that pd would just bid 3NT himself most of the time. This leaves us to a-pass b-4cl c-4d. Although i am an agressive passer the behaviour of 3♥ bidder is very suspicious, i think he has a very decent hand and i would prefer not to stay in defense at 3 level, that eliminates the pass for me as well. I would probably bid 4♣, i have 5 of them instead of 2 after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 But i am assuming pd has a hand an invitation vs a weak NT This is correct. We showed 12-14balanced. We couldn't rebid 2C though (as it would be 15+) Thanks for your answers I will post "results" later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 pass worried pard has: AKxx...xx....AQxx...Jxx and 5d or 3nt goes dwn. give west: QJx..KQJxxxx...x...Ax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffford76 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 1♣ = polish club but it's the same as 2+ in this situation Can't I open this 1♦ instead? Seems like a better description to me to open that planning to rebid 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 You can and maybe should but you didn't. You chose to show 1214 bal instead of 12 17 and 9 minor cards. That choice even if not the best seems reasonable. The problem is what to do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I would bid 3NT. I have only two hearts which makes me wary of passing, a stopper (which for me 1NT didn't at all promise), and a suit that looks like it might run. And I really don't have any assurances of good defense against 3♥X, that is just a crap shoot which could work out great or could make easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I am with Timo, running 9 tricks requires a perfect hand from partner, most of the time an ace is missing and not enough tricks run. What is worse: some 4144 or 5431 with short hearts from partner make 6m but not 3NT. I rather bid 4m specially at IMPs, given the system I bid 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 4C, not 3NT. I doubt 3nt will make. I have already misbid this hand in PC and owe partner an apology. It is hard to answer questions based on previous misbids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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