mike777 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Is 1h=5c exclusion bw in your style or do you need to set trumps first, with say 2nt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yes, exclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Nope, need to set trump first. 5♣ to play for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 no,necessary to set trump at first,so 5c is to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 A good question to ask partner. Mine sets trumps first, and can save a bit of room with exclusion if we use a splinter. Splinter, then 4N (or kickback) is exclusion of the splinter suit. Setting trumps via 2NT or whatever you use for balanced G.F. raises would be preparation for non-exclusion RKC. So, we get to have 5m direct to play, if it ever comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 We set trumps first. If partner's first reply was at the 5 level I would assume natural, but it never happens. The trouble with exclusion when you bid the suit, at least with my replies, is that the level can be too high. You may not want to commit to a slam without hearing replies. What we do is show a shortage after J2N (a splinter is weaker for us) and then bid one step higher than kickback to act as exclusion in the shortage suit. eg1♥ 2♠(J2N, "have you a shortage") 2NT(no) 3♦(my shortage) 3♥(waiting, indeterminate) 4NT=exclusion ace ask, whereas 4♠ is ordinary ace ask implying a singleton rather than a void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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