bd71 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 [hv=pc=n&e=sa98h65dqj74ca843&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=2h]133|200[/hv] Matchpoints. Do you take out 2H? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Not even close. I admit that I like to have a better hand than most people when it comes to direct actions over preempts, but this one is so far away from a takeout double of 2♥ that it is surprising to me that the question was even posted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 This calls to mind a saying I used to use more than I do now: even thinking about bidding is an overbid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I act aggressively over preempts, but this hand is an easy pass for me. It has only 11 hcp, only 3 ♠ and a sterile 3244 distribution with many losers. The only redeeming feature is the two bullets. Vulnerable I can imagine PD taking the push to 4♠ over a non making 4♥ and going for 800 or 1100 when trumps split 5-1 and we're doubled. This is not a hand I open playing S/A or 2/1 and most definately it isn't a hand I X here. EDIT: But I would take my chances and X in balancing seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I would pass directly, but I would double after two passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 It's close but not quite. Like Ken I would double in balancing seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 It's close but not quite. Like Ken I would double in balancing seat. Take away the diamond Queen, and we might both double if white on white? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Feels close to me too; I guess I would pass but the two small hearts make it very tempting to double. I'm way more worried about partner passing it out with three hearts (if I pass) than I am about possibly going for 1100 if I double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 To me it is close also. I would dbl. Perhaps by coinsidence i have been burnt a lot more for remaining silent with those hands than being burnt by bidding at mps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiros Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 The combination of having just 11 HCP, a doubleton as opposed to a singleton heart, and only three spades makes this a clear pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Take away the diamond Queen, and we might both double if white on white? LOLUmmmm.... maybe :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Another close but not quite here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Pass is totally obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 not even close but that's in my partnership style. We would never dream of opening this in 1st chair so coming in r v w with an unpassed hand pard is nuts. But that's just our chosen style. We balance like crazy but mean it when we come in directly in an auction like this. More aggressive styles are not wrong but I would like to play against them for cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM75 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 If you swapped the black suits, I would at least think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm another balancer. I overcall strong, and this is "not even close" to a direct overcall for me. But, because I'm routinely passing hands stronger than this (after 10 seconds), I pretty much have to balance with hands like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Another close but not quite here. quite ?What do you mean Han ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I guide myself by this table against preempts that put me at the 3 level: act with 10 HCP and voidact with 12 HCP and singletonact with 14 HCP and doubletonact with 15 HCP unless looking for penalties. I use this conservative table because I frequently upgrade 1-2 point for whatever reason, for example 6133 is obviously stronger than 4144 with the same HCP count. I like to think that a 1NT overcall shows 16-18, this way I bid it with many 15 counts but I can talk myself not to do it with 14. In the passout seat I susbstract 3/4 points from the table, so would bid with the hand posted and some weaker ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Pass, way too flat and not enough spades. I'm not sure I'd balance with an X either given the lack of spades. ahydra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I guide myself by this table against preempts that put me at the 3 level:You could just shorten this to 15 5-3-1 points, Fluffy. Do you use a similar guide for the 4 level too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 You could just shorten this to 15 5-3-1 points, Fluffy. Do you use a similar guide for the 4 level too? With that level of unbalancedness around, I don't rely on HCP that much, so there are a lot of adjustements to do downgrading quacks and upgrading aces. But once they are done, yes, more or less the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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