3ntmk Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 周六午夜,与华人论坛群的朋友打了几副牌。发现了一些问题,结合自己努力摆脱思维困境的感受,帖出一点浪花,希望对大家有用。举例说明。 ------ KJ986543 *2 ---------------- * ------- 7 这是将牌花色,允许输两墩,你会怎么打? 我经过无数次毫无规律的猜断失败,造成内心的疼痛和对同伴或队友的愧疚,至今还没有弥合。我们遇到这种情况,多数都会慢下来,甚至较长时间的思考————这正是我要强调给桥友们的!仍是经过无数次毫无规律的猜断失败,我终于找到了一些原因,犹如困在黑暗的原始森林深处,看到透过层层枝叶的一丝阳光。我知道了:原来我根本没有思考,只是反反复复纠缠于猜断而已。于是,我再次找到沉睡一边的书籍,寻找专家的思维方式,开始积累一些打法的定式,锻炼自己的桥牌思维,在关键牌张或换攻上,力争有个科学的理由,而不是毫无依据的猜断。我知道学会正确的思维并不容易,但我们终于知道正确的方向在哪里,一直向前,慢慢积累,曙光在前面! OPP拿到将牌花色的AQ102四张。明手出7,西家跟2,你最多能丢2墩......。3-1概率49.7,2-2概率40.7,4-0概率9.6.现在显出了最小的2,我们要把猜断与科学数字一致,我们要让猜断与前面打牌的事实吻合。如果是2-2分配,你可以随便放一个牌,如果放K拿到,或放J逼出A,将会超一墩;如果西家4张,或东家AQ10,都将丢3墩;现在只需要考虑西家是3张的情况,是AQ2,A102,还是Q102?我们又要猜了吗?东家到底是单A,还是单Q,单10?再看一遍:东家到底是单A,还是单Q,单10?你或许已经看出来了。东持有单Q或单10的可能性是单A的2倍!所以你这次是信心满满的上K。也许这次怪了,竟然被A吃去了。你还有机会,长期下去你胜率终将是失败的2倍。祝你有个如此的人生。 如果只能输一墩,又该怎么打? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000ffj Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 “东持有单Q或单10的可能性是单A的2倍”----这个逻辑我想了半天,现在终于想明白了,这个逻辑再细致一点说的话应该加上:能管住K的只有A一张,失败机会1/3,就是说成功机会是2/3,而出J,或者小的话,你只能希望抓住3张中特定的一张,成功机会显然是1/3,这么理解就是清楚了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21574770 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 桥牌是概率的游戏,叫牌或打牌中找不到其他线索只能按概率打 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 思维方法很多,如归纳,类比,分析与综合等等。我理解的桥牌思维方法是,先学会假设的推理方法,再进一步根据“假设”及已知的条件归纳出分析做出决定。如:楼主的几个“如果”后得出,只有打西家持有3张将,那么东家持有哪一张呢?现在只能按概率打了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 文笔不错,将一个枯燥的概率问题讲得绘声绘色。不过,这只是单套的单纯概率,结合叫牌和打牌的过程,会有更多的变化和选择(即使这个单套结构没有任何变化)。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 如果只能输一墩,又该怎么打? “如果……”,只有希望西家的将牌是2张,且有A的概率比东有A的概率小,所以,出J希望顶出A。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shingkit Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 偶最正努力学习基本的做庄技巧,这帖子来得及时啊!谢谢楼主! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamebridge Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 只能输一墩 2 AQT 死T2 AQ 死Q2 AT JA2 QT KQT2 A 死AT2 Q KAQ2 T 死AQT2 - 死 所以,还是放K吧。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 只能输一墩 2 AQT 死T2 AQ 死Q2 AT JA2 QT KQT2 A 死AT2 Q KAQ2 T 死AQT2 - 死 所以,还是放K吧。感谢!给出假设推理的具体方法,我才学会思考的具体方法了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 除了概率,OPPS的叫牌、已出的OPP大牌数都是判断的依据。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55771199 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 桥牌是概率的游戏,学了一着,谢谢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shingkit Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 想不通啊,QT2 或 AQ2 如果保留K, 不是还有飞牌的机会吗?如果不考虑飞牌,AT2好像也是不行的? QT2 A 出9,然后最后一轮从南出牌可以用K或J,吃住Q或T AQ2 T 出J, 然后最后一轮从南出牌K可以规避A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 想不通啊,QT2 或 AQ2 如果保留K, 不是还有飞牌的机会吗?如果不考虑飞牌,AT2好像也是不行的? QT2 A 出9,然后最后一轮从南出牌可以用K或J,吃住Q或T AQ2 T 出J, 然后最后一轮从南出牌K可以规避A 南只有单张,只能出一次牌。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 南家只有单张,没有第二次出牌的机会,所以只能判断并决定一次。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 3ntmk是我在遇到的坐庄功夫最好的一位牌手,他的肺腑良言,值得我们学习。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 感谢3NT老师的贴子,不过我觉得概率好难,真希望论坛中懂概率的朋友发帖普及一下概率知识。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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